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Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by A_D_E_P_T on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @06:22PM (#38466786)
Yeah. I honestly don't know if I'd trade my 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero for a 2023 anything. No trouble, no nonsense, it's fast enough, it doesn't nag at me if I drive around the block without my seatbelt, and minor repairs are rarely more than $100.

A few years back, I had a late model Mercedes GLS, and the damn thing was in the shop almost every other month, and each time it was at least $300-400. Mostly it was electronic components that were at fault; an error in the anti-theft system which cost me $2000 was too much to bear, and I sold the car at a loss...

Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by InvaderFizz on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @08:12PM (#38467872)
On most cars you can disable the seatbelt chime with the right sequence, it's just not advertised and won't be found in the manual, but is easily found online.
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by wredue on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @07:07PM (#38467318)
Pretty much all cars sell at a loss. The chip issues appreciating car values is not a generally normal thing for vehicle values.
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by lightedman on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @08:57PM (#38468319)
"minor repairs are rarely more than $100"

2005 9-3 Linear here. I wish minor repairs were that cheap. Wait until you need your water pump replaced ;) Get ready to squick hard at the required labor charges (water pump is integral to the engine IIRC, requiring the engine to be pulled.)

Right now I need new spark plugs, injectors, and a turbo replaced, and a grounding strap issue somewhere I haven't been able to isolate. Gonna run me a small bit of change.

Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by calvinmorrison on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @10:05PM (#38468964)
Hello fellow sabers. I wouldn't trade my 88 900T for anything. Its just about to crank over 340K
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by jabl on Thursday November 30, 2023 @01:34AM (#38470391)
Well, that's a "real" Saab, the newer ones are just built on the GM standard platform with a bit of Saabish styling.
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by BluePen7 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @10:15AM (#38474469)
Don't forget the Saabaru
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by lightedman on Friday December 01, 2023 @12:13AM (#38483405)
2005 was the first year of GM ownership of the brand but SAAB engineers were still all over that vehicle. I could tell in my 9-3t. Definitely some wiring harness decisions you wouldn't see out of GM!
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by calvinmorrison on Friday December 01, 2023 @03:17PM (#38491730)
hah those GM connectors are light years ahead of the OG saab/volvo ones that saab used in the 90s. Those were absolute trash. My whole harness on my 88 is just... deteriorating slowly and randomly.
Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by BluePen7 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @10:18AM (#38474498)
That's the difference, he's doing his own work. Hell, around here the minimum labour charge is already more than $100.

As someone who owned a Saabaru, many 4 figure shop quotes become a weekend and <$100 in parts. Just depends on if you have the time and space to DIY.

Re:Who makes the most reliable new cars? by astura on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:16PM (#38468491)
Around here the minimum labor charge alone is more than $100, so you must be doing all the work yourself.