Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @11:52AM
(#38461828)
Can you recommend a webmail client which hasn't had 2 vulnerabilities in the last 15 years?
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by velcrovan on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:49PM
(#38465789)
I can recommend not to host your own webmail in general in 2023 unless you are a Fortune 50 company.
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by dugite-code on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:07PM
(#38468424)
Or you can just host it behind a VPN if you're not confident in your ability to manage/patch/monitor it
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Thursday November 30, 2023 @01:49PM
(#38477405)
That wouldn't really solve XSS vulnerabilities (of course depending on what the vulnerability is).
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Thursday November 30, 2023 @01:51PM
(#38477424)
Alright, can you recommend a webmail host who hasn't had 2 security issues the last 15 years then?
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by stracer on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @01:26PM
(#38463113)
By this logic, you should recommend that people don't use computers.
All software has vulnerabilities. The trick is to install it in a way which mitigates most of the typical ones: use VMs, SELINUX/APPARMOR, containers, chroots, user separations, etc.
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by velcrovan on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:52PM
(#38465833)
Email is no longer in the class of "software you install" it is in the class of "services you outsource to reputable companies who won't fuck it up"
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by stracer on Monday December 04, 2023 @12:57PM
(#38520554)
Many people don't see it that way, as they outsource to Microsoft, who can't do e-mail properly and eff it up all the time.
It's more of "outsource to someone else" than "who won't fuck it up".
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by SahAssar on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:57PM
(#38465886)
None of what you mentioned protects against XSS which the parent mentioned. Things like having a proper CSP might but only if the application is built so it does not depend on insecure eval/inline and/or you can properly disallow fetch/connections to outside sources.
Everything you mentioned is about protecting things the app should not have access to. Many vulnerabilities are about intent (did the admin user really mean to truncate the db they have permission to truncate) or target (did the user really mean to export all my emails in an archive to [email protected]).
If you at all store any sensitive data within the application either serverside or clientside you need to consider the security of the application itself, not just the sandboxing/isolation.
Re:Open source email pioneer Roundcube joins the Nextcloud f...
by stracer on Monday December 04, 2023 @12:51PM
(#38520464)
Agreed, this is a nasty bug in the software, which makes it open to manipulation by anybody on the internet who can send you an email. It's a big failure of the RoundCube project, developers probably do not care about security of user data very much. The response to the bug report is "did something to fix this, closed", no comment on what is going to be done to prevent this stuff in the future. Which is disappointing for a flaw of such severity. I wouldn't be surprised if similar attacks on RoundCube are still possible.
Just a month ago there was news of a RoundCube XSS zero-day that was widely exploited (https://cyberpedia.medium.com/state-sponsored-cyberattacks-l...).
Don’t use RoundCube!