The Dead Children We Must See

Re:The Dead Children We Must See by asylteltine on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @08:24PM (#38454213)

Interesting how the Arab countries surrounding Israel will do ANYTHING except accept Palestinian refugees. They have literally never accepted them in history, only expelled them like Jordan did in the 70s as a recent example. It’s almost like these Arab countries just hate Israel and don’t care about Palestine at all

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by megous on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @08:52PM (#38454433)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_diaspora

    Jordan 3,240,000
    Syria 630,000
    Lebanon 402,582
    Saudi Arabia 280,245
    Egypt 270,245
    Qatar 100,000
    Kuwait 80,000
    Iraq 57,000
    Yemen 55,000

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by YZF on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @09:02PM (#38454518)

I think most of these go way back to 1948 though. Do you have any statistics about how many Palestinians from the west bank and/or Gaza these countries have taken in over the last 10 years? Also do those countries give the Palestinians citizenship? I think other than Jordan the answer is no?

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by asylteltine on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:51AM (#38460023)

The answer is no, they don’t at all. They can’t even come in as refugees. All of this “pro palestine” stuff is a facade to openly hate Jews

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by euzi on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @09:37PM (#38454768)

"Interesting how the Arab countries do not want to help Israel forcibly displace Palestinians who choose to fight for their land and freedom."

Fixed it for you.

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by asylteltine on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:52AM (#38460034)

You guys have the gold medal in mental gymnastics. You really said that?

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by eYrKEC2 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @09:02PM (#38454515)

Why can't they live in Palestine?

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by will4274 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @11:27PM (#38455573)

Assuming you're genuinely asking for the perspective behind this argument. I think these folks* mostly believe that cleansing is a "least bad" alternative because Palestine is a failed state with broad anti-Semitism and a Jewish neighboring state. No group in Palestine (even Hamas) is capable of enforcing a peace treaty, and Israel is not willing to abide by a peace treaty that Palestine groups do not abide by. Thus, the status quo of attacks from Palestine to Israel by various armed gangs will continue indefinitely, and the counter-cycle of Israeli retaliation, a counter-cycle which inevitable undermines Palestinian groups that deal with Israel. The most likely possible disruptions of this cycle are tragic - either the rise of a right wing group in Israel that cleanses Palestine or the regional hegemony of a current group in Iran that cleanses Israel - and even assuming one of these tragic disruptions doesn't occur, the status quo cycle is already pretty bad.

* I say "these folks" because I don't know that I agree.

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Re:The Dead Children We Must See by asylteltine on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:53AM (#38460053)

They can, if they simply stop launching rockets aimed at civilians. Literally, that’s all that needs to happen. Rockets stop, bam two state solution next day.

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