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Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by demosthanos on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:05PM (#38452840)
I'm not saying upfront pricing would survive in a free-for-all laissez-faire economy, I'm saying that it ought to be required because it is better for consumers.

They pick based on the advertised price because hidden fees and culturally-mandated tips exploit weaknesses in our psychology, not because customers actually like to spend more than they'd planned on.

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by Waterluvian on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:24PM (#38453056)
In Ontario, Canada we did away with the lower tier minimum wage. Everyone, including servers, bartenders, etc, make at least $16.55/hr. Tips, if any, add on to that. It makes it so much easier to look at the price tag and know what something costs, and not to tip when it doesn’t feel like anything exceptional happened.

But my favourite thing: it gives weight back to tips. They mean something again.

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by fishtacos on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:51PM (#38453376)
Both can co-exist. Also, let's not forget that California lives in its own bubble, not reflective of the rest of Americana.
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by demosthanos on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @09:15PM (#38454616)
I don't know why you're bringing California into this. I don't live there, and TFA takes place in Austin, TX.
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by fishtacos on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @10:35PM (#38455196)
Shoud've clarified - I couldn't reply to the 3rd reply due to HN's limitations, but it was related to the "California" reply without making mention of it. This has nothing to do with Canada.

HN has posting limitations.

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by frumper on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @10:43AM (#38460829)
That's a weird take. What about life in California do you think is so different?
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by frumper on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:46PM (#38453310)
California doesn't have a tip wage, tips still expected.
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by fishtacos on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @10:37PM (#38455217)
Great - tips there should be optional, but that's now not part of the discussion. California's progressive laws rarely reflect the rest of the country, especially Texas.
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by frumper on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @11:51PM (#38455706)
progressive 1970's policies