Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by bombela on Monday November 27, 2023 @11:07AM
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I learned this when I tried correcting the wikipedia page on Docker. I literally wrote the first prototype. But this wasn't enough source for wikipedia. And to this day the English page is still not truthfull (interestingly enough, the french version is closer to the truth).
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You could publish a little webpage called "An historical note about the Docker prototype" under your own name, which you could then cite on Wikipedia.
I think it makes perfect sense as a general and strict policy for an encyclopedia. It would simply be too hard to audit every case to check if it's someone like you, or a crank.
I don't see how requiring someone to set up a little webpage filters out cranks. If anything I might expect it to favor them.
The idea is that it's a separate, distinct source, which exists outside of and independently from the encyclopedia itself, and can be archived, mirrored, etc. Its veracity and usefulness can then be debated or discussed as needed.
Maybe I should write the story as a comment on hacker news, and link to it ;)
Joke aside, I should probably take up on your advice.
Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by a1369209993 on Monday November 27, 2023 @05:49PM
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Yes. Do this (make sure it's not a top-level submission) and cite the HN comment specifically. Stupid rules deserve stupid compliance.
Why would a top-level submission not be valid on Wikipedia?
Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by a1369209993 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:13PM
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It (presumably) would; the problem is that it could be considered more dignified and academically respectable than a random forum comment.
That may fall afoul of the "reputably published" requirement at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research...
Basically, Wikipedia wants a primary source's claims to be vetted by a third party, either a "reputable publisher" or a secondary source.
Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by nerdponx on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:16AM
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Doesn't that disqualify just about any personal blog as a source, or any academic preprint (like on Arxiv)? I can't imagine that's widely enforced.
Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by 3836293648 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:53AM
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Well, stuff like the ArXiv is exactly what they don't want cited
Re:How are zlib, gzip and zip related?
by gmgmgmgmgm on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @02:22AM
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you'd have to publish under another name. reference to the author's blog is also disallowed