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Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by r0ckarong on Monday November 27, 2023 @07:20AM (#38431437)
Looks like the counter to "fuck your rules" has always been: "ok so no more commerce with you".
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by TheChaplain on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:05AM (#38431827)
Rules? Collective agreements are entirely voluntary, by law.

What is happening is that the union is using connected companies to force Tesla to sign a collective agreement.

Employees are not prohibited from joining the union themselves, they are protected by law and Tesla can not stop them nor fire them for it.

From what I've read, the employees are quite happy as it is, and a collective agreement would actually make thing worse as it puts some restrictions on the relation between employer/employee.

Also not that Sweden is not US, there are a bunch of laws that protects workers, no matter if they are in a union or not.

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by ceejayoz on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:11AM (#38431895)
> What is happening is that the union is using connected companies to force Tesla to sign a collective agreement.

Which the rules permit.

Being stubborn and winding up in the middle of a multi-union sympathy strike is similarly "entirely voluntary, by law".

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by TheChaplain on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:39AM (#38432131)
Interesting choice of word.

If the employees are not interested, the employer is not interested, yet they are forced to do something they do not want (and which is voluntary, again by law) then it's not being "stubborn".

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by Hikikomori on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:55AM (#38432242)
The union is doing this because they have members working for Tesla which has refused to sign a collective agreement for 5 years. Not all workers there have to want it, not even a majority.
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by piva00 on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:34AM (#38432088)
> Employees are not prohibited from joining the union themselves, they are protected by law and Tesla can not stop them nor fire them for it.

Joining an union does not equate to having a CBA.

> From what I've read, the employees are quite happy as it is, and a collective agreement would actually make thing worse as it puts some restrictions on the relation between employer/employee.

What restrictions? Collective bargaining agreements set the minimum bar of the employment relationship, if Tesla already has better terms there's no reason to not sign one. They aren't forbidden to provide anything that is better than the agreement, they are only forbidden to go lower than the agreement.

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by xhubin on Monday November 27, 2023 @04:53PM (#38438938)
>and a collective agreement would actually make thing worse as it puts some restrictions on the relation between employer/employee.

The collective agreement puts 0 restrictions, it's essentially just a form of safeguard to protect employees from abuse. They can still have higher salaries, bonuses, longer vacations etc.