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Re:Tesla vs. Toyota Is the New Hot Battle in Cars by hindsightbias on Saturday November 25, 2023 @02:29PM (#38415909)
There is enough EV demand for Tesla to beat the Camry, RAV4 and Corolla but the cybertruck is a lost opportunity to take out more traditional larger SUVs. It and the X are just too weird.

GM/Ford/VW people aren’t weird.

Re:Tesla vs. Toyota Is the New Hot Battle in Cars by kcb on Saturday November 25, 2023 @02:53PM (#38416128)
I think there's a chance the Cybertruck design influences other companies vehicle designs. Not quite the same level but similar sharp angles. At that point it's weirdness will reduce.
Re:Tesla vs. Toyota Is the New Hot Battle in Cars by hakfoo on Saturday November 25, 2023 @03:23PM (#38416383)
It's interesting that the vehicles that cemented Tesla's legitmacy-- the Roadster and Model S-- were intentionally unobtrusive, almost to the point of looking like the generic non-licensed cars you see in video games. You could pull them up to a valet or park them at the Albertson's and not get weird stares. They didn't scream "I'm electric" unless you opened the bonnet.

The Cybertruck and to a lesser extent the Model X go the opposite direction. On the other hand, it feels like the Cybertruck is almost reducto-ad-absurdum-- trucks get bigger, more angular, more aggressive, more macho, and this feels like a sarcastic "this is the ultimate expression of it", while the Model X seems like a riff on nothing (aside from maybe the old gullwing Mercedes, but were people thinking about that when considering a family hauler?)

Re:Tesla vs. Toyota Is the New Hot Battle in Cars by seanmcdirmid on Saturday November 25, 2023 @05:07PM (#38417176)
I just saw a cyber truck at the local Tesla display store today. Say what you want, but it attracts a lot of eyeballs.

Most EVs seem to be small SUVs anyways, or at least crossovers.

Re:Tesla vs. Toyota Is the New Hot Battle in Cars by dieselgate on Saturday November 25, 2023 @05:31PM (#38417351)
I like how the e-golf is just an electric golf and nothing crazy.