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Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by mistrial9 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:15AM (#38405413)
have you tried to learn Vietnamese !? it is really different.. also, someone told me that in South East Asia, like many places, there is a lot of difference between educated people there and uneducated people there.. an illiterate in their own language, has to learn English or else be "rude" ?
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by magnio on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:30AM (#38405601)
> someone told me that in South East Asia, like many places, there is a lot of difference between educated people there and uneducated people there

Such as their education level? Is that specific to South East Asia somehow?

The vast majority of Vietnamese American came to the US not really as immigrants seeking newfound opportunities, but as refugees who have lost their home. I imagine such a sudden uprooting has made them somewhat insular, as they bound together in a foreign environment for which they were not prepared.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by linhvn on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:02PM (#38405940)
That is true for the older generation (immigrating to US pre 1990-ish). The newer generation immigrating to US has a very different mindset now, and they embrace American values as much as the native born here.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by mistrial9 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:56AM (#38405883)
yeah - I am not sure why I get the downvote and suspicious reply, since I explicitly said "like many other places"

yes East San Jose is a hotspot for displaced Vietnamese, who took the American side in the extended, ugly and deeply damaging conflict there. A war that almost all of the people in this area of California deeply and without fail, protested.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by mrweasel on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:23PM (#38406131)
> have you tried to learn Vietnamese

No, but I also haven't moved to Vietnam permanently. I can't imagine navigating another country with a low English or Danish proficiency and not wanting to learn the local language, if I planed to stay there permanently. It seems like you would be making life extremely difficult for no good reason.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by andsoitis on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:32AM (#38405628)
If I lived in another country for 50 years I would absolutely learn the local vernacular.

In fact, I’ve done so with much fewer than 50 years under my belt.