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Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by grecy on Thursday November 23, 2023 @07:18PM (#38399361)
> The US government keeps funding SpaceX through a number military and civilian contracts

The US government "funds" SpaceX in the same way you fund Apple when you buy an iPhone or Shell when you buy gas.

They are a customer, they pay for a product/service.

They are not giving money for free just to keep them afloat.

Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by capableweb on Thursday November 23, 2023 @07:41PM (#38399513)
> The US government "funds" SpaceX in the same way you fund Apple when you buy an iPhone or Shell when you buy gas.

It's a bit different. Without the US gov as a early customer taking lots of risk, they company wouldn't exist. Apple or Shell wouldn't change even if 100,000 customers decided not to buy their products/service anymore.

> The first two Falcon 1 launches were purchased by the United States Department of Defense under a program that evaluates new US launch vehicles suitable for use by DARPA. The first three launches of the rocket, between 2006 and 2008, all resulted in failures, which almost ended the company. Financing for Tesla Motors had failed, as well, and consequently Tesla, SolarCity, and Musk personally were all nearly bankrupt at the same time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#2005%E2%80%932009:_Falc...

Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by jeswin on Thursday November 23, 2023 @07:49PM (#38399565)
That's not "keeps funding". Which is what GP was objecting to.
Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by grecy on Thursday November 23, 2023 @08:40PM (#38399865)
> Without the US gov as a early customer taking lots of risk, they company wouldn't exist

OK, it's like early Apple customers buying the Apple I.

Without those customers taking the risk Apple wouldn't exist today.

Still just a customer buying something, not "funding" in the way you make it sound.

Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by lmm on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:10PM (#38400576)
If they pay more than the open-market price (and they were, in the early days - they were paying significantly more than any commercial customer would have paid such an unproven entity, explicitly because they saw strategic value in SpaceX's existence) then that's funding them.
Re:ESA’s new Ariane 6 rocket passed a major full-scale rehea... by peyton on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:44AM (#38401213)
I believe the CRS contracts carried a launch failure penalty and a no-insurance (mission assurance) clause like the LSP, which would’ve fetched a higher price.