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Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by averageRoyalty on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:01PM (#38396867)
You seem to be taking the term "boys club" as "straight, white mens club". It can be used for that, but as a casual term it just refers to a group with a shared driving force - e.g shared humour, cultural background, niche interest, experience (experience is where you see specific races or sexualities often forming a "boys club").

There are LGBTQ+ boys clubs (and indeed LGB boys clubs and T boys clubs), as well as age and cultural ones.

Broadly speaking, teams who mesh well produce better outcomes. This often works when a boys club is formed naturally (e.g the old guard who just finished a 2 year project, new hires aren't "in") but can when people are forced into situations where they must get along.

Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by DonHopkins on Thursday November 23, 2023 @05:32PM (#38398400)
Since you're a racism apologist who defends Musk's anti semitic trolling with bigoted bullshit attacking American Jews like:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316831

>"Americans Jews seem to have this weird way of crying oppression on any criticism whatsoever." -averageRoyalty, November 18, 2023

It's pretty obvious that you're not a sincere person arguing in good faith, apparently just another zombie Gamergate troll who shouldn't be taken seriously, since you're carrying the water for ignorant misogynistic arguments falsely and unfairly accusing women on game development teams of being incompetent, just like you so recently and gleefully carried the water for Elon Musk's anti semitic white supremacist bullshit.

Read the misogynistic comment I called out that you're defending again, which is as idiotic and bigoted as Musk's anti-semitic troll you also defended, just aimed at disparaging different people:

>"Non-boys clubs give seats to incompetent workers to increase percentages in a report. Boys clubs can hire whoever is more capable with no regard to those percentages." -agbrrw, November 23, 2023

I have first hand experience and objective evidence that non-boys clubs can include competent women and LGBTQ+ people who weren't just hired to increase percentages in a report. What experience do you have with working with a team on a successful game, all boys or not? What games have you shipped? How successful were they, what awards did they win, and how many billions of dollars did they make?

The Sims Franchise Has Made Over $5 Billion In Revenue (And Counting) (2019):

https://www.thegamer.com/the-sims-franchise-revenue-over-5-b...

In case you weren't aware, the fact that there were kissing lesbians in The Sims was instrumental to its break-out success at E3 in 1999. It happened to be designed by a mix of men and women, straight and gay, and Will Wright dedicated to the trans game designer Danielle Bunten Berry. And it sold so well and made so much money for so many years, because it appeals to all genders and orientations, instead of limiting itself to only straight boys like you Gamergate incel apologists angrily and childishly demand.

The Kiss That Changed Video Games:

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-kiss...

So what is your evidence that your bigoted claims are true (including your anti semitic ones, and your misogynistic ones), and that you have the real life experience in the industry to know what you're talking about, and you're not just pulling it out of your ass?

It's always the people who would never be hired to work on a professional team simply because they're insufferable assholes, having nothing to do with their gender or minority status, who whine and complain so bitterly about diversity holding them back and causing all of their problems, usually from the unemployed safety of their mother's basement.

Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by dongstop on Friday November 24, 2023 @06:50AM (#38403007)
You really need to tone it down and stop writing these long essays full of personal attacks. HN isn't your soapbox to go around insulting people. Do better.
Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by averageRoyalty on Friday November 24, 2023 @05:25PM (#38409070)
A few points:

- I'm not American and don't understand American-Jewish culture. I understand the common American need to insult and assume about those who dare to ask a question though, thanks for the example.

- I have no idea what "gamergate" is and I've never stated or insinuated women in game development are incompetent. This seems to be your own mental fantasy.

> I have first hand experience and objective evidence that non-boys clubs can include competent women and LGBTQ+ people who weren't just hired to increase percentages in a report.

That's fine. The GP wasn't speaking absolutely - that non-boys clubs don't work ever. They were stating the freedom to hire the person who clicks (who can be of any gender, race, sexuality, etc) - as opposed to enforced poor fits to tick a box - will often result in better outcomes. Nobody, anywhere here is saying women or LGBTQI+ people (who you're the one who brought up, by the way) can't be competent .

> What experience do you have with working with a team on a successful game, all boys or not? What games have you shipped? How successful were they, what awards did they win, and how many billions of dollars did they make?

Team building and delivery success aren't a unique concept to the games industry. I'm unsure why you want a pissing contest though.

> In case you weren't aware, the fact that there were kissing lesbians in The Sims was instrumental to its break-out success at E3 in 1999. It happened to be designed by a mix of men and women, straight and gay, and Will Wright dedicated to the trans game designer Danielle Bunten Berry. And it sold so well and made so much money for so many years, because it appeals to all genders and orientations

Good. Are you looking for praise here? Well done. I have no issue with that, only the strawman you've conducted does.

> instead of limiting itself to only straight boys like you Gamergate incel apologists angrily and childishly demand.

Ah ok, you're just a cunt. Got it. Anyone who has a difference of opinion to me is an incel.

I've not at any point complained about diversity holding anyone back, I don't believe women or queer prople are incompetent, and you need to get your psych to up your dosage my dude. I understand you sound noble in your head, but you're presenting like a crazy person on the street screaming at strangers about the rapture.

Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by DonHopkins on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:03PM (#38410475)
That's all unmitigated bullshit. If you don't understand American-Jewish culture, then why are you making sweeping racist generalizations about them:

"Americans Jews seem to have this weird way of crying oppression on any criticism whatsoever." -averageRoyalty, November 18, 2023

Saying racist shit then pretending to be ignorant and incapable of understanding what your own words mean doesn't fly. We all already know you're ignorant because you say racist and sexist shit, and none of your arguments hold any water, but that doesn't absolve you from being racist and sexist.

Re:Sorry You Missed It – Inside Rockstar North Blog Shut Down by averageRoyalty on Saturday November 25, 2023 @04:59PM (#38417118)
I'm discussing a religious group, I'm unsure why race is even relevant here?

In the context of the full comment, it's pretty clear I'm asking a question. My personal experience is that the American Jewish community seem to not handle criticism well at all, and any slight against them is marked as oppressive. I then asked for more information.

I'm unaware of anywhere I've brought up sex or race. Again, you're the one talking about those, not me.