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Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by SpaceL10n on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:05AM (#38393482)
I'm not a cop, but how can I get access to this Hemisphere system? Do I pretend to be a cop and walk into a police station, open the start menu and click on Hemisphere, and then "search all"? Seems doable.
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by kotaKat on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:17AM (#38393627)
There are jurisdictions in the US that elect local judges and justices of the court that have zero votes at election-time[1]. You could always just move to the middle of nowhere and write yourself in and hope for the best. And in some places like New York, you need no experience to become one.[2]

[1] https://www.wwnytv.com/2023/11/15/st-lawrence-county-struggl...

[2] https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/35988/201...

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by zlg_codes on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:15AM (#38394349)
Learning the fact that you need no credentials to be a family judge, for instance, permanently damaged my trust and respect in the system. If Joe Bumpkin down the street with no education can decide the fate of others' lives, does our society truly understand and practice justice?

I posit that it doesn't.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by voakbasda on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:22AM (#38394427)
As a victim of family court, I can say with confidence that truth and justice have little to no bearing in a court of law.
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by zlg_codes on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:59AM (#38394824)
In the same boat, stay strong my dude.

Personally I'm using it as an opportunity to tell my story and call out authorities by name, when my case is over.

I would like to see a country where judges don't play God or choose which families win and lose in this country. They owe every citizen respect, not just the ones with uteruses.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by kspacewalk2 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:22AM (#38394432)
I'm guessing that Joe Bumpkin's blatantly legally wrong decisions would be overturned on appeal by a higher order court. But I live in a country with a non-stupid way to select judges, so I don't know for sure.
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by zlg_codes on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:06PM (#38394902)
I find it naive for someone to trust a process that, at just about any junction, can be corrupted and force you to lose resources.

Our rights are but toys to them. This will not change until we start dismantling the structures of power that allow them to steal autonomy from others.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by kspacewalk2 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:12AM (#38405382)
I didn't say non-stupid judge selection is perfect, just that it's strictly better than electing them with no required qualifications.

Also, a firm no thanks from me on dismantling the structures of power until we settle unambiguously on what replaces them. Again, maybe my Canadian bias, our "structures of power" are not great but typically those who want to dismantle them are advocating sheer wingnut lunacy in their stead.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by zlg_codes on Sunday November 26, 2023 @06:06PM (#38426047)
Yeah, government's never get it wrong or anything...

There are some things, like families, that governments are simply not equipped or qualified to rule on. It doesn't concern them, they have no standing and no stake in the outcome. They are reticent to take real action and instead want people to bend to their will without having proven superiority of character, word, or deed.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by FireBeyond on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:05PM (#38394895)
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by zlg_codes on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:26PM (#38395131)
I'll give you that it is indeed one judge actually being held accountable, to some mild degree.

Still not enough to convince me that this country is good or is capable of respecting its own documents and laws. It does what is convenient to it, no more, no less.

I will return the favor when the US inevitably pisses off another country and they invade.

Want to mistreat me? Enjoy defending yourself.

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by FireBeyond on Thursday November 23, 2023 @02:15PM (#38396343)
Oh no, I am very much in agreement with you.

My aim in sharing that article was "how we get to a point where judges even think this is acceptable behavior/know they can usually do this kind of thing with impunity".

Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by SpaceL10n on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:24AM (#38394459)
Time to find out who's having an affair and who isn't!
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by alt227 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:15AM (#38393604)
AT&T are a private company. Ring them up and offer them $1 Billion and they will probably give you access.
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by rockskon on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:24PM (#38395102)
They're being offered 8 million here, no?
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by cj on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:10AM (#38393543)
You'd probably be arrested. Not for accessing Hemisphere, but impersonating a cop.
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by youcantcook on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:17AM (#38393623)
You willfully ignoring the main question which is how does one physically go about making this happen
Re:US govt pays AT&T to let cops search Americans' phone rec... by halJordan on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:42AM (#38393951)
No, you, and the author, are assuming the antecedent which we have to do to make your question relevant. If we do assume that what is done in public, which you've willfully involved a 3rd party in, is somehow 4th amendment protected- it isnt and never has.