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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by NineStarPoint on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:58PM (#38387030)
Given the amount of people who report not having an internal monologue at all, I don’t think human logic is predicated on using words. They definitely can make complex logic easier, but it’s not a requirement.

The cabbage, wolf, goat problem is also an easy example of a problem that doesn't really need words to solve once you’ve conceptualized it. You can solve it by moving physical figures back and forth, either literally on a table or using the visual imagination part of your mind if you have one.

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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by timschmidt on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @07:49PM (#38387642)
Not being aware of something is different from not having something. If said people still manage to carry on conversation, chances are good it's being generated somewhere internally. Everyone is self-aware to different extents and about different aspects of self.
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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by bmitc on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @07:49PM (#38387635)
> Given the amount of people who report not having an internal monologue at all,

What does this mean?

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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by Filligree on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @08:23PM (#38387952)
What is an internal monologue, exactly? Certainly I've heard to words a lot, but... what is it?

That thing. I don't do that.

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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by yreg on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:33PM (#38388911)
It's thinking in words.
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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @08:45PM (#38388133)
No, that's called aphantasia, it's orthogonal to not having an inner monologue (the "voice in your head"), and there are in fact people who effectively hallucinate on demand.

Which I suppose explains a lot of phrases that make little sense if they're only taken symbolically. Or why some people like long scenery descriptions in books - they can literally imagine it. Unfortunately, I'm aphantasic, so I can't.

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Re:Sam Altman's ouster was precipitated by letter to board a... by bongodongobob on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:54PM (#38389059)
Did you get a CT scan or MRI? Or self-diagnosed?
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