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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by kmlevitt on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:07AM (#38376377)
This is a better deal for the board and a worse one for Sam than people realize. Sam and Greg and even Ilya are both off the board, D'Angelo gets to stay on despite his outrageous actions, and he gets veto power over who the new board members will be and a big say in who gets voted on to the board next.

Everybody's guard is going to be up around Sam from now on. He'll have much less leverage over this board than he did over the previous one (before the other three of nine quit). I think eventually he will prevail because he has the charm and social skills to win over the other independent members. But he will have to reign in his own behavior a lot in order to keep them on his side versus D'Angelo

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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by JSavageOne on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @07:27AM (#38378307)
I'd be shocked if D'Angelo doesn't get kicked off. Even before this debacle his AI competitor app poe.com is an obvious conflict of interest with OpenAI.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by himaraya on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:06AM (#38380219)
If he survived to this point, I doubt he will go any time soon.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by yeck on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:57AM (#38380929)
Depends who gets onto the board. There are probably a lot of forces interested in ousting him now, so he'd need to do an amazing job vetting the new board members.

My guess is that he has less than a year, based on the my assumption that there will be constant pressure placed on the board to oust him.

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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by himaraya on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:03AM (#38381003)
He has his network and technical credibility, so I wouldn't underestimate him. Board composition remains hard to predict now.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by WendyTheWillow on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:33PM (#38383135)
What surprises me is how much regard the valley has for this guy. Doesn’t Quora suck terribly? I’m for sure its target demographic and I cannot for the life of me pull value from it. I have tried!
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by himaraya on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:43PM (#38383314)
His claim to fame comes from scaling FB. Quora shows he has questionable product nous, but nobody questions his technical chops.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by JSavageOne on Thursday November 23, 2023 @02:03AM (#38390190)
Quora is an embarrassment and died years ago when marketers took it over
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by murakamiiq84 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:42PM (#38386231)
I think it was only a competitor app after GPTs came out. A conspiracy theorist might say that Altman wanted to get him off the board and engineered GPTs as a pretext first, in the same way that he used some random paper coauthored by Toner that nobody read to kick Toner out.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by jprete on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @08:01AM (#38378590)
It’s likely the goal of the new board is to constitute a permanent board where Altman will be chair and Microsoft will have a seat.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by jnwatson on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:33AM (#38379709)
This board's sole job is to pick the new board. The new board will have Sam.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by himaraya on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:03AM (#38380171)
Conditioned on the outcome of the internal investigation, which seems up for grabs.
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by madeofpalk on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:36AM (#38381460)
(Sam Altman was never on the board to begin with)
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by ketzo on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:21PM (#38382060)
He was. OpenAI board as of last Thursday was Altman, Sutskever, Brockman, D'Angelo, Macaulay, Toner.
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