Re:SocioAttractiveness has a bigger impact on men's economic...
by jl2718 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:43AM
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Simpson’s paradox. The causal axis is (more strongly) positive for career success, but the informative axis is negative for the choice to pursue economic mobility through a career versus family. In simple terms, more attractive women are more likely to marry rich and neglect career success, while the number of men that pursue this strategy is much lower.
Reminder that statistics are only accurate for exactly the question asked. We have a bad habit of assuming that we correctly asked the question that we are actually interested in.
Re:SocioAttractiveness has a bigger impact on men's economic...
by klipt on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:55AM
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Was pointed out elsewhere that this defines economic success as wage income. So for example, marrying a very wealthy person and having your children inherit their wealth is not counted as economic success by this study.
Re:SocioAttractiveness has a bigger impact on men's economic...
by geysersam on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:48AM
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That makes sense in this setting. I guess the question most people want answered in this kind of study is: are attractive people (positively) discriminated?
Discrimination in a setting requires that the attributes is irrelevant in the setting. A blind person cannot be a pilot, that's not discrimination.
In most career settings beauty is irrelevant and therefore an attribute that can be discriminated. If you get a raise because of your beauty in most situations that is a kind of discrimination (but not if you're a model).
In the setting of marriage beauty is generally considered relevant and therefore not an attribute that can be discriminated against.
If the study aims to investigate discrimination because of attractiveness it makes sense to separate between financial outcomes because of career and financial outcomes because of marriage.
Re:SocioAttractiveness has a bigger impact on men's economic...
by 1letterunixname on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:10PM
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Maybe with women or RTO. WfH, it doesn't matter.
I was going to say: "wear a suit, don't be overweight, be symmetrical, and be tall." WfH: Have interesting background objects indicating you've traveled, are cool, are educated, and have artistic taste.
PS: Unemployed 6'5" MAANG SRE/PE here. Hire me! Hire me! ;@D
Re:SocioAttractiveness has a bigger impact on men's economic...
by LargeTomato on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:43AM
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While this is not great, there's a silver lining. It's rather straightforward for men to increase their attractiveness. Bathe, get clothes that fit, workout. In that order.
Reminder that statistics are only accurate for exactly the question asked. We have a bad habit of assuming that we correctly asked the question that we are actually interested in.
Insightful and harks back to one of the greatest jokes in literature: the answer is 42. But what's the question again?
Discrimination in a setting requires that the attributes is irrelevant in the setting. A blind person cannot be a pilot, that's not discrimination.
In most career settings beauty is irrelevant and therefore an attribute that can be discriminated. If you get a raise because of your beauty in most situations that is a kind of discrimination (but not if you're a model).
In the setting of marriage beauty is generally considered relevant and therefore not an attribute that can be discriminated against.
If the study aims to investigate discrimination because of attractiveness it makes sense to separate between financial outcomes because of career and financial outcomes because of marriage.
I was going to say: "wear a suit, don't be overweight, be symmetrical, and be tall." WfH: Have interesting background objects indicating you've traveled, are cool, are educated, and have artistic taste.
PS: Unemployed 6'5" MAANG SRE/PE here. Hire me! Hire me! ;@D
Easier said than done ofc. I'm not Adonis ;)