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Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by maxlamb on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:09PM (#38373221)
He said he wished she communicated her concerns to him beforehand. How can disagreements be delt with if never communicated directly? So the CEO has to first learn of a disagreement with a fellow board member through a NY Times article?
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by foobarqux on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:28PM (#38373383)
The "disagreement" was never dealt with as far as I can tell --- OpenAI's safety approach hasn't become more conservative --- which means that the only effect of bringing it to the CEO beforehand was to try to have it suppressed.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by shrimpx on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:38PM (#38373459)
Hard to defend this level of flex, though:

> Mr. Altman, the chief executive, recently made a move to push out one of the board’s members because he thought a research paper she had co-written was critical of the company.

It's like your job is to fire me if I fail to fulfill the company mission, but I will fire you if you don't get my approval before saying stuff in public.

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:35PM (#38373951)
Keep in mind Altman was also a board member with senior tenure to Toner, and basically hired her to the board.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by comp_throw7 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:45PM (#38374050)
No, she replaced Holden Karnofsky, who was almost certainly the one to pick her.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by s1artibartfast on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:28PM (#38374400)
Why is that? I didn't think outgoing board members got to control who replaced them.

Other board members elect replacements iirc

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by zucker42 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:59PM (#38374188)
Who, it's worth mentioning, got a seat because Open Philanthropy donated $30 million to OpenAI early in its creation.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by baking on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:38PM (#38374465)
Pledged $30 million, $10 million per year for three years, but most likely only $20 million received. Elon Musk gave $40 million. There is also $70 million in mystery "other income" in the 990's that is missing the required explanation (nature and source.)

OpenAI is operated at a public charity and is required to meet a "public support test" of 33%, so Musk could not have given his $40 million without the $20 million from Open Philanthropy, an EA supported public charity. In fact, most of Open Philanthropy's money went to OpenAI.

Public charities are also required to have less than a majority of the board be employees or relatives of employees. For a while, after Elon Musk was removed, Holden Karnofsky of Open Philanthropy was the only non-employee on the board.

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by oatmeal1 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:20AM (#38375021)
Sam could never have a selective memory about such a thing...