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Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by bobthepanda on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:35AM (#38361446)
Short runways still need to be sited in cities. In a lot of areas airports are already so close together that the airspace is congested with all the conflicting paths and holding patterns; I think the worst example is NYC where Teterboro, JFK, LaGuardia and Newark make the airspace very suboptimal.
Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by rickydroll on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:07AM (#38363147)
General aviation airports, as would the small cities they service, would get a second life. Instead of JFK, think of training airports like KISP, KFRG, KWV, KFOX, KHTO, KNPN, KMMU, KCDW, KLDJ N07, N51, KSMQ, N14 and a host of others in the NY/NJ area.

If you use GA airports near more prominent cities, using rail transit to get to nearby larger cities is worth the disruption. For example, with these aircraft, BED would have enough traffic to Boston to justify an extension of the Red Line through Lexington and Arlington.

Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by bobthepanda on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:35PM (#38366885)
There still isn’t a direct rail connection to Boston Logan, or LGA, or a whole host of other American airports, so expecting better results for GA airfields is a bit silly.

This aircraft isn’t very big. These types of regional puddle jumpers are only useful when connecting to major long haul aircraft, which is only really possible at large airports.

Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by rickydroll on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @01:13PM (#38367559)
Yes, you are right. There is no direct rail for many of these GA airports. What I said was:

> justify an extension of the Red Line

It's obvious that even with small electric aircraft, there would not be enough traffic to justify the expense of rail expansion. However, point-to-point air flights would increase the economic viability of many small cities without the need for hub airports. For example, I was driving for business for a while to Burlington, Vermont. I would have welcomed a small puddle jumper from the GA airport 5 miles away to Burlington instead of having to drive to fly out of Logan. It would've been more expensive than driving, but it would have been more enjoyable since I'm the kind of passenger who leaves nose prints on the window. Flying from a local airport to Ithaca, New York (partner's family) would be a viable replacement for driving 6+ hours.

Many more possibilities become practical once you free yourself of the hub and spoke model and combine it with economical electric aircraft.

Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:33AM (#38379704)
And the problem with paddle jumpers is that, regardless of the fact that hacker news craps on all mentions of self- driving artificial intelligence, well absolutely losing it over GPT style word tricks...

Highway self-driving is going to come. And highway self-driving will probably replace the regional flight. If I could sleep in my car to get where I was going while I drove me on highways overnight, it would probably replace all airline flights less than 800 mi and probably more.

You get to leave whenever you want. You got to take a far larger amount of baggage. It gets seriously cheap for a family. You can stop away along the way to rest. The seats are more comfortable. And when you get there you have local street transportation. No need to rent a car.

A self-driving RV van and the sprinter class or something like that makes it even easier.

Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by foobarian on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:36AM (#38364178)
All the air traffic controllers reading these kinds of articles must be breaking out in cold sweat.
Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by jillesvangurp on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:17AM (#38364746)
Long term the way we currently do air traffic control does not scale to a much higher volume of planes. The current way of doing this is super stressful for pilots and controllers and relies on decades old technology. With autonomous planes, there will be a need for managing those that doesn't rely on such technology. ATC having conversations with some AI in a plane over a radio does not make sense.

The solution here is adding more automation and moving away from the way things have been done in the past century. Ultimately, the congestion has more to do with pilot and controller situational awareness and stress levels than with the air actually being congested.

As for physical places to land, that's a much easier problem to solve. Vtols basically need a glorified parking or some kind of field. Small planes need short runways. 3000 feet would be plenty for a lot of those. Less possibly.

Re:Launch HN: Stralis (YC W23) – Hydrogen electric aircraft ... by bobthepanda on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:39PM (#38366960)
3000 feet with the necessary height restrictions in either direction of the runway. And then there’s if NIMBYs let you increase flights at an existing airport, let alone open a new one.

PAE in Seattle has so many restrictions because airports are terrible neighbors, despite the clear demand for more than just SEA.