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Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by cactusplant7374 on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:02PM (#38351687)
Why would Microsoft take Ilya? He is rumored to have started the coup. I can see Microsoft taking all uninvolved employees.
Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nopromisessir on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:30PM (#38352182)
Because he is possibly the most desireable AI researcher on planet earth. Full stop.

Also all these cats arn't petty. They are friends. I'm sure Ilya feels terrible. Satya is a pro... Won't be hard feelings.

The guy threw in with the board... He's not from startup land. His last gig was Google. He's way over his head relative to someone like Altman who was in this world the moment out of college diapers.

Poor Ilya... It's awful to build something and then accidentally destroy it. Hopefully it works out for him. I'm fairly certain he and Altman and Brockman have already reconciled during the board negotiations... Obviously Ilya realized in the span of 48hrs that he'd made a huge mistake.

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nvm0n2 on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:40PM (#38352356)
> he is possibly the most desireable AI researcher on planet earth

was

There are lots of people doing excellent research on the market right now, especially with the epic brain drain being experienced by Google. And remember that OpenAI neither invented transformers nor switch transformers (which is what GPT4 is rumoured to be).

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nopromisessir on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:12PM (#38353914)
So untrue.

That team had set state of the art for years now.

Every major firm that has a spot for that company's chief researcher and can afford him would bid.

This is the team that actually shipped and continues to ship. You take him every time if you possibly have room and he would be happy.

Anyone whose hired would agree in 99 percent of cases, some limited scenarios such as bad predicted team fit ect set aside.

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nopromisessir on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:45PM (#38354440)
I'll leave this here... As a secondary response to your assertion re Ilya.

https://twitter.com/Benioff/status/1726695914105090498

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nvm0n2 on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:26PM (#38355058)
That tweet isn't about him so I don't follow. "Any OpenAI researcher" may or may not apply to him after this weekend's events.
Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by nopromisessir on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:40PM (#38355258)
Uh.... Are we gonna go through the definition of any? I believe any means... Any.

Including their head researcher.

I'm not continuing this. Your position is about as tenable as the boards. Equally rigid as well.

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by loeg on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:09PM (#38351818)
The article mentions Ilya regrets it, whatever his role was.
Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by dragonwriter on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:18PM (#38351976)
But what does Ilya regret, and how does that counter the argument that Microsoft would likely be disinclined to take him on?

If what he regrets is realizing the divergence between the direction Sam was taking the firm and the safety orientation nominally central to the mission of the OpenAI nonprofit and which is one of Ilya's public core concerns too late, and taking action aimed at stopping it than instead exacerbated the problem by just putting Microsoft in a position to take poach key staff and drive full force in the same direction OpenAI Global LLC had been under Sam but without any control fromm the OpenAI board, well, that's not a regret that makes him more attractive to Microsoft, either based on his likely intentions or his judgement.

And any regret more aligned with Microsoft's interests as far as intentions is probably even a stronger negative signal on judgement.

Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by loeg on Monday November 20, 2023 @09:06PM (#38357982)
I wasn't disagreeing, just adding the little context I had.
Re:OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns by cbozeman on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:23PM (#38352055)
Yeah, I'm sure he does regret it, now that it blew up in his face.