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Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by edlinfan on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:08PM (#38341793)
Eirik, in case you're still watching this thread:

I would pay you $400 for this tool without hesitation. I would also pay for upgrades. However, the $400/yr subscription model is a deal killer. This is fine if you're targeting business users only, but it puts the tool out of reach for all but the most determined individuals.

You might want to consider the pricing model used for many digital audio workstations -- a perpetual license for a few hundred dollars, with free patches until the next major version. Then the next major version also costs a few hundred dollars. Rinse and repeat.

This gives you a solid income stream, without ripping your software out of the hands of a customer the instant they're short on cash. It also means the program could work without an internet connection or other constant DRM/activation nonsense. This will likely matter for the technical audience you're targeting.

Best of luck!

Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by replwoacause on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:18PM (#38341844)
I feel this way too. I was excited, as a beta user, to see this go GA but then I saw the pricing and was forced to move on. Pretty steep indeed. But he has a great piece of software here. Best of luck Eirik!
Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by eirikbakke on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:10AM (#38343204)
Thank you for your thoughtful comment!

I always thought of relational databases as a tool for businesses; normally we don't need them as individuals--except perhaps when planning a wedding! Thus the pricing is targeted for businesses and people who get reimbursed by their employers. A second group might be contractors who purchase their own tools.

There might be ways to make a separate tier for private or occasional use, though. And recurring vs. perpetual might be a separate question from the actual total expected cost.

Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by AlotOfReading on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:30AM (#38343399)
It's a very different conversation when an engineer goes to their manager and says "I think this tool I tried out at home could improve our work" versus "we should buy everyone licenses for this tool that I've never used".
Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by edlinfan on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:49AM (#38345606)
Should you be interested in doing so, my suggestion would be to offer an "offline" version. It could be feature-limited as follows:

1. Do not include the planned online collaboration features.

2. Support only Excel, Access, CSV/TSV, and Sqlite data sources.

Charge a fair one-time license fee for this, and you would create an attractive tier for individual power-users, without cannibalizing subscription sales of the "online version" for businesses and contractors who care about collaboration and interacting with large production databases.

Just my $0.02.

Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by RachelF on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:59AM (#38343657)
Looks nice, but the pricing is steep, and the subscription model has drawbacks as other commenters have mentioned.

Perhaps consider a limited free version, say 1000 rows and 10 tables as a limit.

The positive side of this is that it will put it in the hands of many people, most of whom wouldn't have bought it anyway. This lets you get more feedback and find more bugs. A fraction of them will like it and tell their boss to buy the paid version. Do not provide support to free users, it will eat your time.

Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by _s_a_m_ on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:48AM (#38345589)
These subscription models are straight up scam if a webservice is not essential for its working and also then it must be resonably priced. I pay for MS Office + OneDrive probably 7€/month. So how does this shit add up?
Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by zupa-hu on Monday November 20, 2023 @06:59AM (#38346776)
His tool, his pricing, take it or leave it. Nothing scammy in it.

Build something better, undercut his price, then we can talk.

You may be a really nice person but failed to act accordingly this time.

Re:Ultorg, user interface for relational data, is released by XCSme on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:41PM (#38357705)
I am trying a similar pricing model for my product.

Something like $399 perpetual license + 1 year free updates/support, and then optional around $99/year. Being self-hosted, you can always keep using it, but to make the company sustainable, it's not wise to promise free lifetime updates.

Would this model too work for you?