Hey, can you please not do programming language flamewar (or any flamewar) on HN? We're trying for something else here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Partly this is out of memory of the good/bad old newsgroup days where this kind of thing somehow worked ok, until it didn't, but it definitely doesn't work on the sort of forum that HN is. We'd like a better outcome than scorched earth for this place.