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Re:Bootstrapping Self Awareness in GPT-4: Towards Recursive ... by raidicy on Sunday November 19, 2023 @06:17PM (#38339655)
No idea I think they're all really good questions.

I like your example that they become an instance. For the sake of argument say you have Holy Grail AGI™ and you copy it and starting from State t where T is the exact moment you copy it, two instances now exist.

I think they are both "them" but the state change through time as a chaotic process and so since they are now separated they will eventually begin to drift?

This is based totally on nothing but "dude trust me I made it up"

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Re:Bootstrapping Self Awareness in GPT-4: Towards Recursive ... by datameta on Sunday November 19, 2023 @06:23PM (#38339712)
I think that makes complete sense and points me to the fact that it it simply that most of us aren't yet fully equipped to effectively use the vocabulary to describe these concepts, but you have put it well, I believe.
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Re:Bootstrapping Self Awareness in GPT-4: Towards Recursive ... by raidicy on Sunday November 19, 2023 @06:36PM (#38339838)
Please take credit where credit is due; you used the word instance :-).

I figure what we're doing in these threads is kind of what sci-fi authors who were way smarter than myself have done for decades: Muse about a topic, put down some ideas maybe some new vocabulary Etc. Then when new technology comes out those of us who are well read can look back and say "A ha! That clever bastard knew it all along!"

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Re:Bootstrapping Self Awareness in GPT-4: Towards Recursive ... by bobbiechen on Sunday November 19, 2023 @07:03PM (#38340109)
Both of you might enjoy Greg Egan's Permutation City - sci-fi involving simulated human consciousnesses that explores some related ideas.
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Re:Bootstrapping Self Awareness in GPT-4: Towards Recursive ... by datameta on Monday November 20, 2023 @10:45AM (#38349620)
It's now been recommended too many times to me for me to not read it! I hear one needs their big kid math hat for this 9 on the Mohs hardness scale of hard sci-fi.
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