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Re:Why Dumb Ideas Capture Smart and Successful People by tsimionescu on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:20AM (#38333421)
Even if this is true, the costs of digging are much higher than the costs of above-ground construction + the legal costs of acquiring the land. A hundred kilometer tunnel would be one of the longest tunnels ever built, and the longest train/track tunnel by quite some margin. And it would need copious safety features and auxiliary tunnels leading to the surface, even before the whole vacuum part gets added in. So it won't even completely avoid the need for buying above ground lands.
Re:Why Dumb Ideas Capture Smart and Successful People by jacquesm on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:29AM (#38333517)
> the costs of digging are much higher than the costs of above-ground construction

Yes, easily 3 to 10x.

> A hundred kilometer tunnel would be one of the longest tunnels ever built, and the longest train/track tunnel by quite some margin. And it would need copious safety features and auxiliary tunnels leading to the surface, even before the whole vacuum part gets added in. So it won't even completely avoid the need for buying above ground lands.

Indeed, so it's both a technical and economical non-starter. But it's not a 'dumb idea' in the sense that it is impossible. Merely impractical, too expensive and too complex and besides cheaper solutions exist (aircraft, for one, which scale much better with increasing distance than rail ever will).

One thing all of these 'dumb ideas' and the hyperloop, tidal energy and so on all have in common: they are great ways to get your grubby fingers on subsidies.

Re:Why Dumb Ideas Capture Smart and Successful People by tsimionescu on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:22AM (#38334097)
I understand your point much better now, yes. These are all different from things like cold fusion.