Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by roguecoder on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:37PM
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Making humanity’s current lives worse to fund some theoretical future good (enriching himself in the process) is some highly impressive rationalisation work.
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Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by Rzor on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:06PM
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Try to tell that to the Effective Altruism crowd.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by concordDance on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:35PM
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Literally any investment is a divert of resources from the present (harming the present) to the future. E.g. planting grains for next year rather than eating them now.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by autaut on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:48PM
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There is a difference between investing in a company who is developing ai software in a widely accessible way that improve everyone’s lives and a company that pursues software to put out of work entire sectors for the profit of a dozen of investors
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by concordDance on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:32AM
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"Put out of work" is a good thing. If I make a new js library which means a project that used to take 10 devs now takes 5 I've put 5 devs out of work. But ive also made the world a more efficient place and those 5 devs can go do some other valuable thing.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by gemstones on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:38PM
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What percent of those devs don’t do a valuable thing and become homeless?
Maybe devs are a bad example, so replace them with “retail workers” in your statement if it helps.
Is “put out of work” a good thing with no practical limits?
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by concordDance on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:39AM
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Yes, the ideal is when most jobs are genuinely automated we can finally afford UBI.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by lotsoweiners on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:20PM
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Who can afford it? When LawyerAI and AccountAI are used by all of the mega corps to find more and more tax loopholes and many citizens can’t work then where will UBI come from?
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by gemstones on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:21PM
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And people with money will want to make UBI happen because...?
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by kergonath on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:00PM
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My thought exactly. Some people don’t have any problem with inflicting misery now for hypothetical future good.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by 0xDEAFBEAD on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:10PM
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Here's the discussion on the EA forum if anyone is interested: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HjgD3Q5uWD2iJZpEN/...
I think the EA movement has been broadly skeptical towards Sam for a while -- my understanding is that Anthropic was founded by EAs who used to work at OpenAI and decided they didn't trust Sam.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam...
by concordDance on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:33PM
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> Making humanity’s current lives worse to fund some theoretical future good
Note that this clause would describe any government funded research for example.