It’s actually quite simple. Israel was out of Gaza for years prior to Oct 7. On Oct 7, Hamas targeted over 1.5 thousand civilians including babies and the aged for slaughter and kidnapping. Resulting in a military operation to suppress Hamas.

So yes if your level of nuance on this is “Israel is hurting human rights, ceasefire now” and you are oblivious to who broke the ceasefire and how, then it’s not that different than making you drink Tide.

Can you identify data that supports your claim? Here’s a good site to start: https://israelpalestinetimeline.org/

Sure look at the chart in your link called people killed per year. That number was very low between 2014 and 2023 until the ceasefire was shatters by hamas this October

So is your argument that Palestinians should have been fine with hundreds of their people being killed by Israelis every year from 2015-2022, because it was less than the thousands of Palestinians killed by Israelis in 2014?

And furthermore that none of those deaths gave justification for the 1200 Israelis killed by Palestinians this year, but those deaths somehow justify the 10,000 Palestinians killed by Israelis this year?

I don’t see this as an eye for an eye bullshit so not sure what “justification” you are talking about. There was calm then there was an incursion that targeted civilians followed by military operation to root out Hamas.

Non Hamas Palestinians are obviously caught in the crossfire

This “calm” “ceasefire” of your imagination was in fact a period where hundreds of Palestinians were being killed by Israelis each year, the real horror is that this was indeed less than before. You seem to think that’s below the threshold of importance?

The situation has no good answers, and Hamas committed murder, but this part is not the truth:

> Israel was out of Gaza for years prior to Oct 7

Israel has conducted military actions in Gaza, but more significantly, they've blockaded Gaza, turning into a ghetto, since the 2000s. They control the Gaza economy and much more. It's not like the Sinai Desert that Israel left decades ago and has no influence in.

Gaza was not a ghetto by any stretch of the imagination. Check their HDI before the war. It exceeds that of many countries.

If Gaza was a ghetto, from where does Hamas get the money to stockpile vast amounts of arms? Couldn't that money have been used to improve living conditions.

Gaza had areas that were described as "wealthy". I wonder how that is possible in a "ghetto"

That differs from every credible source I've read for many years. Do you happen to have any credible sources that support that depiction?

Check these links:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Palestine_b...

- https://blog.kurby.ai/the-10-best-neighborhoods-in-gaza-pale...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimal

Thanks. Not your job to provide them, but Wikipedia, especially about a white-hot topic, is not reliable in my book. I will keep an eye out.

Still, if you want to persuade people of extraordinary claims, you'll of course need very strong evidence.

There are references for the HDI figures. You really think Wikipedia is cooking HDI figures?

An editor could be, but regardless, Wikipedia has many risks, especially in this scenario.