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Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by rootusrootus on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:39PM (#38315278)
> I highly doubt BYD could sell a car in the US for $20k.

Yeah I see no way that happens. They have no dealer network to fall back on, so they have to either partner with someone already established, or they have to try and spin up a mobile service network like Tesla did. That costs money, and isn't going to happen while selling $20K cars.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Saturday November 18, 2023 @12:19AM (#38315645)
Amazon enters the chat.

Or Walmart. Hell, even Costco could play well here.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by Domenic_S on Saturday November 18, 2023 @02:33AM (#38316570)
i would buy the SHIT out of a costco car
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by stavros on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:03AM (#38317599)
What would you do with the rest of the car?
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by ddxv on Saturday November 18, 2023 @12:53AM (#38315933)
I doubt the US would let BYD sell cars openly in the US. China related company's no longer have level playing fields in the US.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by throwaway4good on Saturday November 18, 2023 @02:19AM (#38316479)
I think Volvo is going to try to sell their Volvo EX30 in the US.

But yes; in practice the US have banned Chinese EVs by a combination of subsidy policies and import taxes.

The 2025 Volvo EX30: Priced to Tempt Americans

https://spectrum.ieee.org/volvo-china-electric-car

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by avar on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:38AM (#38317007)
Volvo is a Chinese car company.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by throwaway4good on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:02AM (#38317172)
It is a multinational company with Chinese owners, headquartered in Sweden. Used to be owned by Ford.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by onlyrealcuzzo on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:00AM (#38319036)
That's a quite reductionist view.

Just because a Chinese holding company owns something doesn't mean it's a "Chinese company".

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by tuatoru on Saturday November 18, 2023 @09:07AM (#38319737)
It's on its way to being a Chinese-owned brand.

Just like MG, which is now a brand owned by Shanghai Automotive Industrial Co. Or Jaguar Land Rover, owned by Tata Industries.

It's only a reductionist view in the very short term.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by hef19898 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @12:00PM (#38321628)
Both, Volve and JLR, are actually hreat examples of what can happen when the rich owner doesn't interfere with operations. JLR all of a sudden is doing great, building great cars as a kind of nieche luxury brand. Volvo the same. None did particulary well under Ford's ownership. Sadly, Saab was killed by GM before it could be saved.

In fact, JLR and Volvo were more "brands" under Ford ownership, as compared to now where both are independent car makers.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by mensetmanusman on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:38AM (#38333612)
it's illegal for a chinese company to not have ccp drones as part of leadership.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by avar on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:25AM (#38320564)
Volvo's >80% privately owned by one Chinese guy (through a holding company).

So yes, it's a Chinese company, as much as the ownership of any large modern conglomerate can be attributed to a given nation. If that one guy wants all Volvo's to be shipped fluorescent pink it's going to happen.

Note that I was referring to Volvo Cars, the company that manufactures trucks etc. isn't owned by the same holding company, but they've got an agreement to share the "Volvo" brand.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by alvah on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:29AM (#38320604)
Indeed. Nobody was calling it an American car company when Ford owned it. Once it formally merges with Geely, it will become a Chinese car company.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by happycube on Saturday November 18, 2023 @09:42AM (#38320145)
side-note: I saw the EX30 and thought that it was the 2nd gen Bolt GM wasn't planning to build...
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by glenngillen on Saturday November 18, 2023 @02:44AM (#38316629)
Lots of variables at play here, so obviously this isn’t a perfect comparison. But… BYD has a presence in Australia. Cheapest car here is AUD$39K. Meanwhile a Tesla Model 3 starts at AUD$69K.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by tuatoru on Saturday November 18, 2023 @09:13AM (#38319805)
In NZ, MG (brand of SAIC) EVs are going great, because they're cheapest. (MG also sells hybrids still for the rural market here.) BYD is doing well too.

Great Wall Motors (Haval, GWM brands) is trying to push hybrids here. China already has its own legacy manufacturers like Toyota or Volkswagen.