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Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by pydry on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:20PM (#38312852)
Also 3. Methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2 and an unbelievable amount gets leaked (especially via fracking).
Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by thinkcontext on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:51PM (#38313266)
So much so that from some production areas it can be worse from a ghg perspective than coal.
Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by sbierwagen on Saturday November 18, 2023 @01:09AM (#38316037)
For a few decades. Methane decays in the atmosphere, while CO2 sticks around for however many centuries until it's physically sequestered.
Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by ljf on Saturday November 18, 2023 @02:52AM (#38316688)
Methane decays into.... Co2 and water vapour. Both have further green house impacts.
Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by euroderf on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:49AM (#38317953)
And yet, when there's a big leak, flaring it is the way to go.

And if it's an illegal leak, maybe it needs some help to flare.

Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by ljf on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:26AM (#38318234)
Yes, I agree - I'd rather they flare methane and not just leak it. But I wanted to ensure that people didn't think methane just harmlessly decays away. Water vapour at high altitudes causes green house warming, as does the co2 - so while it isn't as bad once decayed, it isn't harmless.
Re:How the Gas Turbine Conquered the Electric Power Industry by thinkcontext on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:27AM (#38364023)
Over 20 years it traps 84x times as much heat and 28x over 100 years. I believe most EPA calculations use the 100 year timescale. So if there's 4% leakage (there are some fields that exceed this) its worse than coal on 100 year timescale.

Its arguable what the correct timescale to consider it is. Personally I think 100 years is too long given methane's potential feedback effects. IE, warming causes methane to be released from Arctic tundra melt causing more warming, etc.

And there's also the issue that the higher the concentration of methane in the atmosphere the longer it takes to decay.