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Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by roland35 on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:08PM (#38311918)
Cars have an element of safety and reliability concerns where I just do not trust some of the newer automakers, compared to a computer! Also it is different purchasing a car for tens of thousands of dollars vs a computer.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by lordnacho on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:13PM (#38311996)
Aren't there safety conformance tests that every car is put through before being allowed to be sold? I seem to remember looking through these last time I bought a car.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by askiiart on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:18PM (#38312818)
Yes, but in the US at least (I don't know about anywhere else, sorry), it's way too easy. If I remember correctly, the test was made for cars back in the 60s and basically every single car gets a 4 or 5 out of 5. If you've got two 4/5 cars, then one of them will surely be safer than the other, but unless the car is able to get a 5/5, there's no difference in the score.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by rootusrootus on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:47PM (#38315362)
The tests have evolved a huge amount since the 60s. And even if a car just barely met the minimum legal requirement to be DOT legal, if it performs poorly on the IIHS tests then people are going to run the other way. And once your brand has -that- reputation, good luck coming back from it anytime soon.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by askiiart on Saturday November 18, 2023 @12:48AM (#38315876)
Ah, well then it seems I was very mistaken! I'm so sorry about that, I should really do a bit of research next time before posting.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by stcredzero on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:10PM (#38312713)
Cars have an element of safety and reliability concerns

Teslas are claimed to be the safest cars ever made. In fact, Tesla uses instrumentation to track accelerations many times a second during actual crashes, and gather statistics on what gets hit, and what goes where during a crash.

This is data of a quality head and shoulders above the competitors, and it shows.

On top of that, they are using similar techniques to have the car avoid the crash altogether. These comprise active safety measures which are included with FSD, but which are also standalone and included generally in Tesla cars.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by anonymouskimmer on Friday November 17, 2023 @10:00PM (#38314463)
I was really impressed with Tesla's safety when that guy drove his family off of a cliff in an attempted murder-suicide, and they all survived.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by eastbound on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:39AM (#38318340)
Tell me one thing they’ve changed thanks to precise monitoring of what gets hit.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by stcredzero on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:33PM (#38353243)
Here's an overview of the data Tesla gathers from a crash: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1272/the-power-of-data-a-l...

I recall they have changed the timing of triggered events that happen when the system has detected an imminent crash, and the timing of events that occur when a crash happens. I can't find the reference right now, however.

ChatGPT-4 uncovered this:

https://electrek.co/2021/10/12/tesla-unveils-new-crash-safet...

Advanced Airbag Deployment: The data enables Tesla to detect the type of crash within 10 milliseconds and deploy airbags optimally, considering the exact seat position and steering wheel position

Also, the crash data is used to create more accurate crash simulations, which goes directly into changes to the vehicle structure. Going off of what Sandy Munroe says about the rate of changes and improvments, this happens at the time scale of 1 or 2 months.

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by martin8412 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:25AM (#38320573)
They were sued for making that statement by the NHTSA.
Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by stcredzero on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:00PM (#38353685)
[citation needed]

I just googled, "NHTSA sues Tesla" -- Nothing!

Re:Electric vehicle battery prices are falling faster than e... by smileysteve on Saturday November 18, 2023 @12:09AM (#38315554)
> I just do not trust some of the newer automakers

I have little trust many of the older car manufacturers as well; GM, Chrysler, Ford seem to be 30+ years behind on shipping reliable technologies like variable valve timing or independent rear suspension. Have you seen the Ford Bronco crash test? The Kia key debacle has only recently taken over the fact that Chrysler was 20 years behind Japanese makers adding chip on key/immobilizer tech. The american makers put off tech like coil on plug, and port injection 8+ years compared to Japanese and European.