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Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by izacus on Friday November 17, 2023 @12:03PM (#38306352)
Let's use the term "corporate entity" instead of "group of people". Because corporate entities do not have human emotions or human properties and actively work on suppressing them to generate (or extract) value.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Friday November 17, 2023 @02:57PM (#38309129)
A 'corporate entity' is just a group of people. Those people absolutely have emotions.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by dragonwriter on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:02PM (#38309218)
Yes, but the corporate entity does not; the (possibly contradictory) emotions of the people who have some role in a corporation are not features of the corporate entity.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:07PM (#38309294)
Yes, but the corporate entity is not a thing in and of itself. It is just a language device used in communication to identify the actual thing: People.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by dragonwriter on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:10PM (#38309326)
> Yes, but the corporate entity is just another way to say group of people

No, its not.

Its more like a grouping of a subset of the actions of a group of people in some contexts, and a shared subset of the interests of a different (narrower, but overlapping) group of people in others.

But its not generally simply a way of referencing a group of people.

Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:12PM (#38309359)
Right. Like you say, a group of people. Now, why do you think those people are void of feelings?
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by dragonwriter on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:28PM (#38309613)
> Like you say, a group of people.

No, that's exactly what I said it was not.

A subset of the actions of a group of people, or a subset of the shared interests of a group of people, is not a group of people.

Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:32PM (#38309674)
You suggested that is what it is not, but then went on to say that is what it is. You just did it again.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by dragonwriter on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:35PM (#38309738)
No, I didn't, but if you can't understand language enough to recognize that there is no point in further discussion.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:41PM (#38309886)
You mentioned there is a subset, but the subsets described is still represented by the group of people. You can try and twist language all you want, but there is no avoiding the fact that a corporation is just people. If people somehow magically disappeared, the corporate entity would disappear at the exact same time.
Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by dragonwriter on Friday November 17, 2023 @04:27PM (#38310624)
> You mentioned there is a subset, but the subsets described is still a way to identify the group of people.

A subset of the actions or interests, not a subset of the group of people (the latter would, indeed, be just a different group of people, but isn't what I said.)

> If people somehow magically disappeared, the corporate entity would disappear at the exact same time – it's the same thing.

No, its not the same thing.

If North America disappeared, all the piles of dog feces in North America would also disappear, but the piles of dog feces are not the same thing as North America.

Re:Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next... by randomdata on Saturday November 18, 2023 @11:48AM (#38321451)
> A subset of the actions or interests

Direction is the word you are struggling to find, but it is the direction of the group of people. You have not added anything drawing attention to this so-called subset. It changes nothing about the discussion. It's just silly wordplay to divert our attention from your grievous error at the onset.