280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by supermatt on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:08AM (#38305475)

Yup, IIRC in terms of kJ/km cycling is ~4x more efficient than walking (on flat surface). I guess they must be talking about the energy used in production, etc.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by baxuz on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:17AM (#38305599)

It's closer to 6x.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by nordsieck on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:43AM (#38306030)

I mean, the number will really depend on how fast people are biking. Over 20mph, efficiency starts to really take a hit. Unless you use some sort of crazy shell.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by gpm on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:02PM (#38314977)

Cycling anywhere near 20mph is beyond most peoples physical capabilities... with the small exception of steep downhills where the energy is "free" (at least compared with walking where you capture none of it) anyways.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by wrboyce on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:25PM (#38325279)

I used to aim for an average 20mph over my rides when I was in peak fitness, so putting it “beyond … physical capabilities” is nonsense.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by gpm on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:52PM (#38325556)

"Most people" aren't in peak fitness...

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