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Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by belval on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:12PM (#38280155)
> Amazon announced theirs last year

Inferentia (inf1) was GA'ed in December 2019 so it's actually almost 4 years old now. The trainium (trn1) chips and the Inferentia 2 (inf2) refresh is indeed 1 year old though.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by jedberg on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:18PM (#38280236)
I was referring to trainium.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by ShamelessC on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:28PM (#38280381)
Yikes those names are horrible.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by bonton89 on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:51PM (#38280712)
They'll sound better after we hear Microsoft's names.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by cameronh90 on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:18PM (#38281069)
Microsoft Azure Inference for Cloud Apps 365 Pro Live Series X
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by Someone on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:47PM (#38281415)
I think you mean

Microsoft Azure™ Inference for Cloud Apps© 365 Pro® Live Series X™®

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by wiml on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @06:50PM (#38284059)
... For Workgroups
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by ukuina on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @09:58PM (#38285416)
64-bit for Extended 64-bit systems.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by pwarner on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @06:59PM (#38284145)
Viva
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by mdaniel on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @04:13PM (#38282568)
I'm still so bitter about this nonsense https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/identity-a...

> Azure Active Directory is now Microsoft Entra ID

ok, geez, thanks

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by bee_rider on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:41PM (#38283631)
I don’t really know what an active directory is, but I assume that the default type of directory is a passive one, in that it just holds files or subdirectory (it doesn’t act). An active directory sounds like a directory that is going to play tricks on me.

Entra ID sounds like a type of ID.

I’m not sure how something could legitimately have each of these names. I assume the functionality changed pretty dramatically over the lifespan of the product?

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by fragmede on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:52PM (#38283708)
Active Directory is Microsoft's database targeted mostly for user login and associated data.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by steve1977 on Thursday November 16, 2023 @09:28AM (#38289897)
That’s kind of a nice take actually. For people like me who did Windows systems engineering at the beginning of the millennium, Active Directory is a very household name. But there’s not much actual meaning behind it. Everything Microsoft was active in that era - Active Directory, Active Desktop, ActiveX, Active Server Pages (lives on as ASP.NET) and probably some more I forgot.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by bee_rider on Thursday November 16, 2023 @09:46AM (#38290127)
I should admit that I was somewhat lying, I’ve encountered Active Directory before and know it is something vaguely identity/login related.

I was pretty confused the first time I encountered it, though. Could tell from context that it had something to do with accounts, but thought maybe it could be for syncing a user’s home directory or something!

It actually isn’t a terrible name, in isolation, since a directory (like, the non-digital version) was for keeping identities. But “directory” in tech has a pretty strong association with file systems.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by steve1977 on Thursday November 16, 2023 @10:14AM (#38290537)
The term "directory" was actually already quite common for these kinds of systems (directory services) when AD came about, which is probably why it was called Active Directory. The Active bit was some kind of "en vogue" term for Microsoft back then, as mentioned ;)

It technically builts upon (amongst other systems) LDAP, the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol and X.500

I guess you could think of it more like a telephone directory - which again is also where the file system metaphor has its roots I guess. So the two are not so different in the end.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by jonathanlydall on Thursday November 16, 2023 @12:35PM (#38292660)
I manage our small company’s Microsoft 365 / Azure tenant and only rarely need to use the portal.

A month or so ago my laptop was requiring a BitLocker recovery code before it would boot. I spent ages looking for Azure AD, before eventually discovering it was renamed to Entra. They should have had a transition period where it would have “ (formerly called Azure Active Directory)” on its name.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by belval on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:54PM (#38280752)
Why? Inferentia => inference, trainium => training. Given the usually naming of AWS product, having one where the name roughly matches what it does is pretty good?

TPU is pretty good but is associated with Google. MTIA is an acronym but still maps to what the chip does. ~~"Cobalt" is worse as it does not mean anything~~ . Cobalt is the CPU chip, MAIA is the accelerator so this matches Meta's naming.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by ShamelessC on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @03:50PM (#38282280)
> Why? Inferentia => inference, trainium => training.

Funny, that's precisely why I think the names are bad. It's like if Google had chosen "Search-ola" as their name. Way too on the nose and/or lazy. Having said that, I don't really care all that much and I imagine that may have been the spirit of those who chose the names.

Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by mdaniel on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @04:10PM (#38282536)
heh, as someone who has to deal with this nonsense all day <https://aws.amazon.com/products/> I would for sure welcome some straightforward naming. $(echo "AWS Fargate" | sed s/Fargate/ServerlessContainerium/)
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by organsnyder on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:39PM (#38283614)
My previous role was a lot of AWS, and I became convinced that the value of an AWS cert was mostly learning how to map all of the product names to their actual functions.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by ClimaxGravely on Thursday November 16, 2023 @11:45PM (#38299684)
Hahaha, it might not have worked but I would love to use a search engine called Search-ola
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by esafak on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:26PM (#38283492)
They're searchable and self-explanatory so they're not bad.
Re:Microsoft introduces its own chips for AI, with eye on cost by coredog64 on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:13PM (#38280998)
Graviton CPU is a year older.