Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by robertlagrant on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:33AM
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But it'd still be taxed.
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Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by kdmccormick on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:39AM
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Any good LVT in my mind would robustly employ "conservation easements", which lower/waive taxes on land that is preserved for environmental protection. These are a common tool of land trusts today, and IMO they would fit great alongside LVT.
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by sokoloff on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:34AM
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It's taxed now as well (in almost all jurisdictions). It's just also taxed on the buildings that sit on top of it (that latter portion of which provides a disincentive to development).
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by robertlagrant on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:48AM
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Understood, although not much of a disincentive. I think I have an aversion to just taxing what people own. When it's a building, at least that is related to services they're likely to consume; it's not just "we want a cut".
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by artimaeis on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:57AM
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I think that's the jib though - in a lot of countries you don't really "own" the land. You and the government(s) get to just agree that it's your responsibility for a while.
LVT cleans up this incentive some by putting taxes in place in areas where the land is more valuable. I think Georgists would argue for doing that _and_ removing property taxes, specifically so you aren't taxed for the things you own.
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by robertlagrant on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @12:45PM
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But... you are being taxed for things you own.
I'd prefer to have more direct spending on services than we have, so the money isn't proxied off a building, or how many windows you have, or whatever harebrained scheme local bureacrats might invent. So you just pay X a month to have trash taken; X for sewage, etc etc. But I'd say that moving to just taking money in a way entirely unrelated to service consumption is going in the wrong direction.
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by voisin on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @11:59AM
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Is there somewhere where land isn’t taxed? I am in Canada and all privately held land is taxed.
Re:The 'Georgists' Are Out and they want to tax your land
by dirtyhippiefree on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @12:43PM
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Land taxes in the US pay for services like fire and other emergency responders.
The discussion is about shifting more of the burden on those profiting so greatly off the land they own.