Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose greater risk to pedestrians

Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @02:52PM (#38268651)

A minivan can fit more people and has more cargo room than an SUV.

There is zero reason to get an SUV other than status signaling, and/or wanting to be the bigger vehicle in a collision.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by nickthegreek on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @03:01PM (#38268820)

More people at more weight for many minivans. My vehicle is the size I need for my needs. I don't need to hold 8. Why do I want to add another 1,000lbs to lug around. Your answer is worse for the environment than an SUV.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @03:24PM (#38269198)

You might be referring to compact SUVs. 3 row SUVS are basically the same weight or more than minivans.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by nickthegreek on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:02PM (#38269707)

Oh wow, there are like 5 different classes of "SUV". This only further complicates conversations around this vehicle class. I drive a VW Tiguan, which is appears to fall under the compact SUV.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by zombielinux on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @03:56PM (#38269628)

Nope.

My SUV has the capability of hauling all the people and their stuff I regularly have to while ALSO towing a fully loaded horse or stock trailer.

I skip the missing pickup truck bed by using a trailer (that I can tow with our old car too).

I fully recognize its size and how if I didn't have a farm it would be 100% unnecessary.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by 1-6 on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:18PM (#38269932)

Is it a SUV by the true definition of one or a crossover?

The term SUV has been manipulated to the point that unibody sedans on larger wheels now qualifies as an SUV at a dealer showroom.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by ajuc on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:06PM (#38269761)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0HeV1zHYhc

This car has 23 HP and weights 650 kg. It's a little extreme, but any modern car can haul a trailer no problem. You don't need an SUV.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by nucleardog on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:13PM (#38272530)

Taken to an absurd extreme: https://www.motor1.com/news/583580/toyota-prius-gooseneck-hi...

(It’s a Prius towing a goose neck trailer.)

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by scruple on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:49PM (#38272733)

No, but I do need to put 3 kids into car seats and carry a lot of stuff at the same time. I don't have many great options. I sincerely don't understand what people with 4 or more children do in these situations, work vans? I'd love to get an 80s station wagon, honestly, but those don't exist.

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by redcitylights on Thursday November 16, 2023 @08:24PM (#38298074)

Any modern car can haul some trailer, but plenty of ‘cars’ shouldn’t be used to haul plenty of trailers. Just because a vehicle can pull a trailer forwards doesn’t mean it can do so safely. Brakes, suspension, or frame a Stiffness may be inadequate. Please stay within your vehicles tow rating!

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Re:Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose great... by ajuc on Friday November 17, 2023 @04:18AM (#38301246)

This video is obviously a joke (they aren't pulling it on a public road and they do it at a walking speed). It wouldn't be legal here :)

But this exact 23 HP 650 kg car can legally pull 400 kg trailer (as long as it has breaks - 300 kg without). And I've seen it done on public roads in 90s. Maybe it wasn't full capacity so let's say 200 kg but still. That's already more than you can fit in most SUVs.

A modern 100 HP 1500 kg sedan can pull more than most people will ever need. And they do - outside US. Somehow in US you need a 2500 kg truck to do the same. I just don't understand.

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