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Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by patwolf on Monday November 13, 2023 @08:00AM (#38249636)
I had the Maxis game El-fish, and the part of the game where you'd breed fish was almost unplayable on a 486SX because the SX lacked a math coprocessor. I wanted a math coprocessor, but as a kid in pre-internet times, I had no clue how to get one.

Maybe I'll try playing in dosbox and see what I was missing out on.

Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by h2odragon on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:57AM (#38250862)
Technically, you had one on the 486SX, it was just disabled. Probably*

As I recall the "co-processor" slot on those boards was another CPU slot, with an extra pin; and when filled it took over and disabled the original CPU.

Edit: later 486SX may not have had FPU: https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/12109/wer...

Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by achairapart on Monday November 13, 2023 @10:13AM (#38251078)
I read many times that 486SXs were rebranded 486DXs with a defective co-processor unit, don't really know if it was rumors or just plain fiction.
Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by Sohcahtoa82 on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:35PM (#38252805)
Seems perfectly plausible. CPU binning has been being done for years. Made an 8-core chip, but one core is faulty? Disable some cores and sell it as a 6- or 4-core chip. Chip won't run at the frequency expected? Sell it as a lower-spec CPU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_binning#Semiconductor_...

Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by acdha on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:24PM (#38253376)
There is some discussion here:

http://www.os2museum.com/wp/lies-damn-lies-and-wikipedia/

My guess is that if there’s any truth to it that was early on before the process was fine-tuned. It’s hard to believe Intel would have tolerated a process producing that many errors since they could use the same die space to make more smaller chips.

Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by bcx5k15 on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @08:51AM (#38276578)
probably

intel used to sell cheap core solos back in the core duo days, which were just duos where one of the cores was faulty so they disabled it.

Same with the F model (no iGPU) chips today. People have done teardowns and found that more often than not its there on the die, just disabled because its faulty.

Re:Don't waste money on a math coprocessor they said by MBCook on Monday November 13, 2023 @10:21AM (#38251180)
I loved that game.

But you should have tried breeding on a 33 MHz 386SX. I think I had to let it run overnight.

My next computer was a Pentium 133. The difference in fish breeding was mind blowing.