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Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by userinanother on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:11AM (#38241418)
I don’t understand why anyone thinks than turning hydrocarbons into food then turning them back into fuel is a good idea. Nothing about biofuels is sustainable or green. Unless you consider greenwashing green.
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by qgin on Sunday November 12, 2023 @12:34PM (#38242297)
Supposedly SAF results in 80% CO2 emissions vs regular jet fuel.

https://www.iata.org/en/programs/environment/sustainable-avi...

Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by userinanother on Sunday November 12, 2023 @12:40PM (#38242342)
Even if it’s true that a gallon of saf is less co2 than a gallon of gas the total lifecycle co2 emissions has to be higher due to all the conversions taking place. Any gains are likely due to incomplete accounting of co2 sources
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by sillywalk on Sunday November 12, 2023 @01:31PM (#38242818)
I think sustainable is one of those meaningless terms. Like "carbon neutral".
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by userinanother on Sunday November 12, 2023 @01:50PM (#38242988)
True but All the terms to describe the phenomenon are meaningless. It’s like we have been robbed of words to even describe the problems and they have all been replaced with buzzwords
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by jackweirdy on Sunday November 12, 2023 @01:50PM (#38242989)
The CO2 in plants is 100% from the air, and then goes back into the air when burned
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by userinanother on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:24PM (#38243773)
Too simple of a model. If you used non industrial agriculture it would be mostly correct but industrial agriculture and fertilizer use consumes vast amounts of petroleum products so that’s where the issue lies
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by jackweirdy on Monday November 13, 2023 @08:21PM (#38257677)
What % of the carbon of the plant is fertilizer production?
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by hypertele-Xii on Monday November 13, 2023 @08:02AM (#38249642)
One word: Fertilizer.
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by jackweirdy on Monday November 13, 2023 @08:21PM (#38257683)
Fertilizer itself isn’t carbon. Are you referring to the fertilizer production line or fertilizer itself
Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by wkat4242 on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:39PM (#38245940)
It's because replacing jet fuel with batteries is not a technical option right now.

Banning jets isn't an option either so we'll have to use more fringey solutions.

Re:First transatlantic flight powered by sustainable aviatio... by tonyedgecombe on Monday November 13, 2023 @02:27AM (#38247839)
>so we'll have to use more fringey solutions.

Except this isn't really a solution.