Re:How I got here (Preston Thorpe, incarcerated developer)
by skrebbel on Sunday November 12, 2023 @07:39AM
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Sure, but saying someone is not guilty when obviously they are but a 10 year prison sentence is way out of proportion for what they did, that’s stupid too right? It means we expect juries to lie, on purpose, to prevent ruining someone’s life. It forces juries to pick between two bad extremes.
These kinds of laws remove the opportunity for juries (or judges where I live) to eg say “6 months of community service” when it’s more appropriate.
Re:How I got here (Preston Thorpe, incarcerated developer)
by singleshot_ on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:05PM
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If you look up the terms “no reasonable jury” and “judgment of acquittal,” you can learn more.
Re:How I got here (Preston Thorpe, incarcerated developer)
by dragonwriter on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:10PM
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Right, judges can overrule any jury verdict, civil or criminal, except a criminal acquittal.
But that's not inconsistent with what GP said.
Re:How I got here (Preston Thorpe, incarcerated developer)
by dragonwriter on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:10PM
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> Judges and lawyers absolutely hate it,
Well, defense lawyers love it, the only thing they hate is not being allowed to mention it to juries.
Judges and lawyers absolutely hate it, but juries aren't there just as a logical check on laws as written and facts as presented. Juries are a check on the legal system and laws themselves.