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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by notjoemama on Saturday November 11, 2023 @03:25PM (#38234161)
> rumors that they like to copy technology

It's not a rumor that China copies tech, they've been caught stealing corporate and military IP.

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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by hef19898 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @03:41PM (#38234290)
Including the complete dataset for the F-35.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by genewitch on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:10PM (#38234559)
At this point we all have a copy of that, I would think.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by gmerc on Saturday November 11, 2023 @09:41PM (#38236735)
right at warthunder.com
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:12PM (#38234585)
Source? I assume everyone has the unclass info but I can't find anything about China getting the classified deets.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by lazide on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:24PM (#38234691)
Because no one on either side would want to admit it?
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by hef19898 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:55PM (#38234964)
For example, this story was in the news back the day for a while.

https://www.securitynewspaper.com/2021/08/23/how-chinese-apt...

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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @09:54PM (#38236798)
I see no mention of classification levels so I will assume unclass.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by echelon on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:36PM (#38234794)
Why aren't these things developed completely air gapped?
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by hef19898 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:54PM (#38234946)
Because you cannot coordinate activities across multiple sites and suppliers if they were.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by Wowfunhappy on Saturday November 11, 2023 @05:50PM (#38235393)
How did we do that before the internet?
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by orf on Saturday November 11, 2023 @06:03PM (#38235497)
We didn’t need an internet air gap before the internet.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by Wowfunhappy on Saturday November 11, 2023 @06:17PM (#38235588)
How did we coordinate activities across multiple sites and suppliers before the internet?

Basically, I don't think enough people are seriously questioning the costs vs benefits of using the internet while dealing with sensitive data. You should assume that basically anything which touches an internet-connected device will eventually be stolen, and plan accordingly.

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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by nradov on Saturday November 11, 2023 @09:26PM (#38236648)
Before the Internet, aircraft designs were far simpler and thus it was feasible to do the work at only a few sites. The JSF / F-35 program then went even further by intentionally spreading work across many US Congressional districts plus several allied countries in order to make it politically impossible to cancel.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by wkat4242 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @08:36PM (#38236422)
On paper and spies were just as effective back then.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by kalleboo on Saturday November 11, 2023 @08:51PM (#38236490)
Slowly and inefficiently. Projects like the F-35 are insanely complex and could not have been done on pen and paper.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by hulitu on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:49AM (#38240040)
Because Microsoft Windows cannot be airgapped.
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by hulitu on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:48AM (#38240034)
Just like US. https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/960011/trans-atlant...
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Re:LockBit says it's leaked 50GB of stolen Boeing files afte... by ASalazarMX on Sunday November 12, 2023 @04:40PM (#38244349)
I don't understand the downvotes. Industrial espionage is a fact of how governments operate, all governments that have a spying apparatus at least.

For some it's a bitter pill to swallow when everyone is the bad guy, but we should just accept governments don't like being bound by international laws when breaking them can give them an advantage.

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