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Re:Jeff Geerling by sfsdf343425 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:23AM (#38220748)
But the software for other SBCs is extremely bad, I've never heard of any Pi on release or after that has any software or hardware bugs.

Proprietary blobs aren't that bad with Broadcom...

Re:Jeff Geerling by throw932490 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:31AM (#38220860)
I mentioned AMD64 SBC, that is AMD or Intel. CPU would be typically an Atom, Celeron.... Any mainstream Linux distro supports those. And hardware quality is far better.

Pis do have bugs. Most famously botched USB-C power delivery on initial Pi4. There are tons of minor bugs in Wifi, bluetooth, USB... Plus missing features, Pi5 does not support WPA3, no hardware codecs for encoding/decoding video...

Re:Jeff Geerling by sfsdf343425 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:35AM (#38220914)
Baseline RAM Pi are still magnitudes cheaper, its a moot/niche above 2GB for most makers. Pi doesn't have to cater to lite servers only...

Gotta admit that Pi foundation never cared about batteries, especially since it's common with makers, audio removal etc...

Re:Jeff Geerling by throw932490 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:40AM (#38220996)
Pi4 2GB with power source, SD card, case, fan is like $100. You can have nice Atom MiniPC for that. Or old PC from ebay...
Re:Jeff Geerling by sfsdf343425 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:46AM (#38221068)
But these are used, cheap new Atom miniPC doesn't have GPIO, and brand new Atom SBCs with GPIO are more $$$ with the same SoC compared to miniPC since they aren't mass produced. A used Pi with sdcard/case/fan is much less than $40.
Re:Jeff Geerling by ThrowawayR2 on Friday November 10, 2023 @12:03PM (#38221312)
USB GPIO dongles are a cheap addon to any x86 PC, e.g. "Adafruit General Purpose USB to GPIO" at https://www.adafruit.com/product/2264
Re:Jeff Geerling by chipt4 on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:47AM (#38221088)
It (the 5) has a hw HEVC decoder, just no encoder
Re:Jeff Geerling by dang on Friday November 10, 2023 @05:14PM (#38225263)
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Re:Jeff Geerling by amluto on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:33AM (#38220883)
RPi has its share of bugs. USB spec violations and busted WPA3 come to mind.
Re:Jeff Geerling by geerlingguy on Friday November 10, 2023 @12:55PM (#38222091)
If you're thinking of the USB-C PD input being 5v/5A, that's not a spec violation, just a bit of an extreme use of the more recent version of the standard.

It would be nice if it were higher voltage/lower amperage, but it works at least with their own power adapter through a few clever tricks.

For WPA3, it is what it is... most SBCs have 'middling at best' built-in WiFi, and while the driver support can improve, I typically stick to external or M.2 PCIe WiFi chips if I need something more robust. (Hopefully a WiFi HAT will make its way to the market with Intel AX210 or something like that).

Re:Jeff Geerling by amluto on Friday November 10, 2023 @01:05PM (#38222234)
Re:Jeff Geerling by geerlingguy on Friday November 10, 2023 @01:42PM (#38222760)
Ah yes, that one was pretty silly. Partly due to not spreading out alpha test hardware wide enough to catch a more obvious bug like that. Also up there with 'don't take pictures of the Pi 2, the camera flash will reboot it' :)