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Re:I Skipped to the Ending by xwdv on Friday November 10, 2023 @08:03AM (#38218309)
True “hackers” don’t give a fuck about startups. Hackers are interested in how things work and how they can be exploited to do things or grant access to forbidden data. Real hackers back in the late 90s early 00s casually did things that would make a lot of today’s “hackers” blanche in the face and wet themselves at the thought of computer crime, or at least grope around for a downvote button. It was a thrilling era for freaks and geeks. Ever found yourself scrolling down a stolen CSV full of credit card numbers and full billing info? It’s like snorting a line of coke. As a teen I once stole $22k, spent several years looking over my shoulder expecting to be shot or cuffed.

At some point the term “hacker” was co-opted to mean anyone writing code. These Silicon Valley tech entrepreneurs aren’t really “hackers”: they’re businessmen with some software engineering skills. But that doesn’t sound nearly as edgy or cool as calling yourself a hacker.

Re:I Skipped to the Ending by rideontime on Friday November 10, 2023 @09:56AM (#38219598)
Ok, grandma, let's get you to bed.
Re:I Skipped to the Ending by 2toxic on Monday November 13, 2023 @10:12PM (#38258562)
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Re:I Skipped to the Ending by jhbadger on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:25AM (#38219989)
Computer criminals calling themselves "hackers" is fairly recent, only the past few decades. And that's as unwarranted as calling anyone who codes as "hackers" as you mention.

Originally hackers were the people actually creating new innovations, typically with no financial gain desired either criminal or legitimate. People at places like MIT or Stanford in the 1970s and the like.

Re:I Skipped to the Ending by xwdv on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:59AM (#38220459)
Even if true, still a far cry from the typical Silicon Valley brogrammers making pitch decks.