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Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by cmrdporcupine on Thursday November 09, 2023 @11:28AM (#38207127)
My annual renewal for CLion is coming up, and I need to make a decision.

These days I only do Rust dev really. I'm not clear on what their plans are for ongoing Rust support in CLion going forward now that they're rolling out RustRover. Are they going to pull it?!

Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by nicce on Thursday November 09, 2023 @11:40AM (#38207266)
The plugin is deprecated now, so I believe so.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by zlurker on Thursday November 09, 2023 @12:13PM (#38207773)
Yep, I got intellij to work with python/rust/scala and it's frustrating to see it pulled out like that. Not sure why they need to sell so many IDEs that are almost identical. Would've been happy with some upcharge for a "premium" plugin but I don't want to install three IDEs like they apparently want me to.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by dijit on Thursday November 09, 2023 @12:36PM (#38208086)
from what I understood there is “Intellij IDEA Ultimate” which allows you to enable all the features of the specific IDEs as if they are plugins.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by rafaelmn on Thursday November 09, 2023 @01:37PM (#38208969)
No, this only works for a few languages supported as plugins. Most of JetBrains IDEs are separate even if built on a same core. I have all products license and still can't use a single app to access all languages.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by zlurker on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:39PM (#38209969)
even with the supported plug-ins it's still not the same either. intellij with python plugin has just enough differences with it that it throws off some of my coworkers who use pycharm.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by cmrdporcupine on Thursday November 09, 2023 @12:26PM (#38207968)
The old plugin is deprecated, but the new plugin installs fine into CLion. The question is how long that will be the case.

Because I work at a company that is mostly C++, with some Rust. My team's project is 90% Rust, but I still need to do C++ now and then. I'd be super annoyed to lose that.

They should at least continue to offer the plugin as a paid expansion option for CLion.

Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by nicce on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:41PM (#38210012)
Yeah, the future is a big question. Here is quote from some mail:

> As said in the announcement, RustRover is available as a plugin to IntelliJ IDEA during the preview period. However, we have yet to determine whether this will be the case once we’ve released RustRover. This is because we’re still not certain whether users will need the plugin or whether a dedicated Rust IDE will be sufficient. Around the release time, when we make our decision. We’ll also consider the cases when IntelliJ IDEA licenses were primarily bought for Rust development with the IntelliJ Rust plugin and which options we can suggest to our users in these cases. Please stay tuned!

https://github.com/intellij-rust/intellij-rust/issues/10867#...

Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by the_duke on Thursday November 09, 2023 @11:46AM (#38207371)
You'll need to get Intellij Ultimate, where the new Rust plugin will be available; or switch to RustRover.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by Xeamek on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:33PM (#38209861)
Rust plugin is avaible in Clion as well, and it has more features then in IntelliJ (like debugging)
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by ziml77 on Friday November 10, 2023 @05:58PM (#38225717)
You just need to install the Native Debugging Support plugin into IntelliJ. I recently switched from having all the language specific apps installed to centralizing on IntelliJ IDEA. As far as I can tell, that plugin gives you all the same debugging features as CLion and RustRover.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by JKCalhoun on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:20PM (#38209604)
Yeah the rental/subscription model is what turned me away from CLion. It was cool while it was still in free-trial mode and I'd have happily paid for it as an app that doesn't require a subscription.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by beached_whale on Thursday November 09, 2023 @03:03PM (#38210363)
you are not renting but paying for updates. The latest version when your subscription ends is what you are licensed for. I think it's after 1 year though.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by cmrdporcupine on Thursday November 09, 2023 @04:10PM (#38211356)
The money is entirely worth it, to me. And I pay for it out of pocket rather than billing my employer for it, even. And I'll still be able to use the latest version I had at the time the sub ended.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by Leo_Germond on Friday November 10, 2023 @02:58AM (#38216299)
You should consider having it paid by your employer, even with some chargeback on your pay you would save on taxes.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by cmrdporcupine on Sunday November 12, 2023 @10:33AM (#38241012)
I don't like having my employer pay for tools that I also use for my own open source IP.
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by thegrim22 on Friday November 10, 2023 @04:28PM (#38224779)
I really dislike it and every time my license expires I somehow end up getting screwed over. I'll be using version X, then pay for a year license, use version X for the entire year, never upgrade, and then after a year when the license expires all of the sudden I'm locked out of version X and told my "fallback" version is some version older than X. Why isn't my fallback version the latest stable version at the time I purchased the product?
Re:CLion Nova Explodes onto the C and C++ Development Scene by aldanor on Thursday November 09, 2023 @04:29PM (#38211627)
I was a happy user of CLion + intellij-rust since its first version, I believe, advertising it to everyone. Switched to neovim + RA half a year ago and don't think I'm ever going back :)