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Re:We Need a Revolution by systemvoltage on Thursday November 09, 2023 @10:16AM (#38206056)
What if I am fine with this minimal amount of waste? All the greenwashing by Apple and other companies does not reflect the actual material damage of the environment. Just like recycling doesn’t always make sense and it is highly situational. But ask anyone and it’s like a religion.

We need to get back to sensible environmentalism. Otherwise, you can justify pretty much anything.

Re:We Need a Revolution by bee_rider on Thursday November 09, 2023 @10:27AM (#38206199)
I think what I’ve suggested is sensible environmentalism. Add a deposit, let the market sort it out. It is what we’ve done for lead acid car batteries, and it works pretty well, I think. Lead and acid are nasty things, but we recycle something like 99% of these batteries.

The issue isn’t whether or not you are fine with a little bit of waste. That little bit of waste has a cost. The cost is paid by the planet, not you, if the phone just winds up ina dump. I haven’t suggested banning phones without replaceable batteries, just making sure that you or your phone manufacturer somehow pay that cost.

Re:We Need a Revolution by systemvoltage on Thursday November 09, 2023 @11:02AM (#38206702)
We can put entire humanity's electronic items and plastic in a dump with minimal environmental impact.

Focus on bigger ticket items. The elephants in the room.

Re:We Need a Revolution by bee_rider on Thursday November 09, 2023 @02:30PM (#38209786)
Better recycling will also help us mine less lithium and rare earth metals.