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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by mrd3v0 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @04:52AM (#38203000)
I understand that the writer makes a lot of presumptions about the reader, but this is to be expected it is a personal blog called "Hi, I'm Heather Burns" and from the title there is a certain narrative with context implied. There is not an inch of objectivity explicitly or implicitly expected here.

Politics are "self-righteous", if you are not "self-righteous" in discussing and arguing for policies - no matter which view or policy we are talking about - you are not really making a good point, you certainly aren't trying to advocate for whatever you believe in, and you are not morally consistent.

That aside, this particular issue has been beaten over and over, and for someone who is an expert and a career policy advocate: they are not going to waste effort and time by repeating the same points almost everyone reading their blog agrees upon.

Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by kkoncevicius on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:24AM (#38203223)
One of my favorite quotes:

"Politics has nothing to do with what a person personally advocates for." - Norman Finkelstein

An example he often gives is advocating for a world without borders. You can advocate for it, and create a group of like minded peiple and write blogs about it, but it will be like creating a cult. Politics, according to him, starts with what the people want. It has to have some concrete proposals and practical momentum that are accepted (or at least not resisted) by the general public.

Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by mgaunard on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:08AM (#38203112)
I'd argue good policy is a matter of compromise, not conviction.
Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by mrd3v0 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:40AM (#38203315)
Maybe I would tend to agree with you in a different context, but here there is no compromise: it is either backdoor communications at mass or encryption.
Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by nonrandomstring on Thursday November 09, 2023 @06:18AM (#38203599)
I agree with all the other points made here around politics; Compromise, check. Realism, check. Popular conviction, check! ... But one simply cannot go up against mathematics armed with wishful thinking.

The reason this is an issue for splitting is that there really are no half-measures. One must choose a path.

The confounding thing about the UK and encryption these past years is that we've had a technically uneducated government and/or advisors that are mischievous. Nowhere have I ever seen the basic humility and falliblism to say;

  "This is a complex issue. We don't really understand the parameters.
   Choosing this or that path could have terrible consequences. What
   do you the people think?"
Of course most will say, the uneducated "people" are the last to have any useful input. At least the elected government have some political chops, if not any technical vision. But we're not asking "the people" to weigh in on the merits of key escrow or weakened PRNGs - the choice is fascism or democracy - because people have a fundamental right to privacy and democracy cannot thrive without that.
Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by di4na on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:24AM (#38203224)
You need both. As there are some things you cannot conpromise on. Like. Idk. Things factually impossible. Or Human Rights.