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Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by EricE on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:12PM (#38195397)
you can still stream stuff - just use something else and just leverage it as a cheap display.

Unless it won't work if not connected to the internet (wouldn't put it past them).

I bought my Xbox mainly because it was the best/cheapest option for a 4K bluray player. I think I've loaded a game on it a handful of times at best, but watched lots of movies and other content with it. Thanks gamers for subsidizing a great BR player!

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by bombcar on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:14PM (#38195429)
The key is to verify that the TV will return to just showing "HDMI 1" or whatever after power off.

Because the smart TVs have a history of returning to whatever ads they want to show after power on.

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:17PM (#38195475)
My particular TV, if it's never been connected to the internet, will not show any ads. It will show a notification that it isn't connected to the internet when you turn it on, but it will work fine otherwise. It'll even switch to the correct video input if you power it on through that port, say through a firetv stick. Otherwise, there's a setting for power on behaviour: 1. go to home screen 2. Go to last used input.
Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by buildbot on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @03:00PM (#38196088)
Even better, if you can avoid accepting the ToS for the apps, they don't even start. My Samsung TV is so snappy now because I reset it and ignore the accept ToS button :)
Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by bozhark on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @04:26PM (#38197317)
Makes sense.

Telemetry takes packets out of your bandwidth.

These boxes have constant calls so… yeah free that space up

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by buildbot on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @04:46PM (#38197562)
This is step beyond that, none of the crappy Tizen apps or anything start at all. The TV never gets network access of course :)
Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:15PM (#38195438)
The FireTV is not an actual television set. It's the "something else" that you use to stream content to a screen with no internet connection.
Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by ArchOversight on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:21PM (#38195533)
No, in this case it is actually a full size TV that has the same OS as the FireTV stick.
Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by vladvasiliu on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:32PM (#38195711)
My bad, I only quickly skimmed TFA, didn't think these were actual TVs since they're not available where I live last time I checked.