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Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by wiz21c on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @09:14AM (#38190540)
> It’s marketing vomit.

An understatement. Do these people actually believe in it ? Or are they just faking it because one has to adhere to company's value ?

Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by evantbyrne on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @09:26AM (#38190700)
Most people are faking it. Being able to spend your time on something that both significantly improves humanity and pays the bills is a rare opportunity.
Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by staunton on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:05AM (#38192349)
I don't think that's really true (though the claim might be too general to even evaluate on its merits). The same way that I don't believe most religious leaders are secretly atheists.
Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by baz00 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:08AM (#38192403)
I dunno I'm an atheist and I've thought about starting my own cult occasionally :)
Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by lambdasquirrel on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:08AM (#38192407)
I've always wondered what substances people are using, the more that they have to touch that stuff. When I was more naive and inexperienced, I was blind to this, and I also judged it.

Nowadays, as long as the marketers are taking care of it, and they aren't ruining their health, I don't care what they're taking as long as it's not meth.

Re:Hard-to-swallow truths they won't tell you about software... by manicennui on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:26AM (#38192690)
I always wonder this. I think many people actually believe the bullshit because they aren't intellectually curious and have spent no time exploring how other organizations might work. This becomes a problem for software engineering because they have nothing to draw on other than their past work. If they haven't worked anywhere other than your current employer, and your currently employer is a dumpster fire, they are going to continue to repeat bad patterns.