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Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by Crontab on Monday November 06, 2023 @04:47PM (#38169481)
Black hole formation without star collapse is pretty amazing. I wonder if this is something that could only happening in the early universe, when everything was closer together.
Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by digging on Monday November 06, 2023 @06:50PM (#38171025)
Yes. These primordial SMBHs can have masses comparable to entire galaxies. You most likely won't find that much matter collected densely enough anywhere in the modern universe, or ever again.
Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by amatecha on Monday November 06, 2023 @08:24PM (#38171879)
"ever again".. until the universe collapses in upon itself? (Is that still a plausible theory as to the fate of the universe?)
Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by lazide on Monday November 06, 2023 @08:41PM (#38172047)
Current theory is it expands forever until nothing has a chance of ever interacting with anything else.
Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by SoftTalker on Monday November 06, 2023 @10:18PM (#38172797)
If you believe Roger Penrose, at that point spacetime ceases to exist since all matter has thinned out to nothing, all black holes have evaporated. Then, because of math I don't understand, a conformal rescaling happens and you get a new Big Bang.
Re:UHZ1: NASA Telescopes Discover Record-Breaking Black Hole by codethief on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @08:22AM (#38176409)
> Then, because of math I don't understand, a conformal rescaling happens and you get a new Big Bang.

I don't think he has any math to back this up. In his theory, it just… happens.