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Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by rimunroe on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:15AM (#38164522)
I've been using a similar shortcut like this for a while on iOS for bedtime reading. I hadn't seen the "reduce whitepoint" option before, but by setting the shortcut to "zoom" you can get a similar (possibly slightly dimmer?) effect. The trick is to make it so the zoom shortcut dims the unzoomed area, and then set the unzoomed area to the entire screen. I just checked, and the effects of those two settings stack to make things quite dark.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by jihadjihad on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:37AM (#38164810)
Been doing this for several years now and it works great (triple click the Home button to dim the screen), but I can't help but wonder if a standalone setting in iOS wouldn't be a better option.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by DitheringIdiot on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:18AM (#38164567)
That's interesting, I'll look into it. Using the method outlined in the article I can get it to the point of being almost not being able to see the screen. Though at night once your eyes adjust, I think going even dimmer could be useful.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by rimunroe on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:25AM (#38164674)
One downside of either the zoom trick or the reduce whitepoint option is that you won't see the screen dim before the screen locks from inactivity. This occasionally trips me up if I'm having trouble getting past a page quickly enough. I usually work around this by just touching the screen occasionally or increasing the inactivity limit temporarily.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by kylebenzle on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:25AM (#38164681)
The nonsense Apple users go to for the simplest of features is always mind blowing to me. If they were paying 1/2 the price I'd get it but Apple products just make no sense to me.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by FredPret on Monday November 06, 2023 @12:04PM (#38165237)
Apple device defaults cover 999/1000 use cases absolutely perfectly - for me and apparently most people.

It's no problem creating a weird workaround for the other 1/1000 items.

Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by fomine3 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:00PM (#38173093)
1/50 for me, though I think the ratio isn't bad
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by HumblyTossed on Monday November 06, 2023 @12:46PM (#38165892)
Right. Because Android has it's ultra low brightness setting where? Oh look! It, too, is in Accessibility settings.

Just stop

Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by domino24 on Monday November 06, 2023 @02:58PM (#38168036)
We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down. Also Night Light which removes blue light (also in the drop down). These can also be programmed to go on/off at set times (bedtime mode). Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by KennyBlanken on Monday November 06, 2023 @03:37PM (#38168622)
> We actually have a slider bar in the quick menu drop down.

You mean like iPhone's Control Center, which is a pull up? There's a large, very clear screen brightness widget...

> Meanwhile, my husband as never been able to locate any of these in an iPhone without the help of this thread.

Aside from the fact that I believe night shift is on by default:

You long press the screen brightness slider (long presses are a common UI function...) and boom, there's two buttons for dark mode and night shift, and below night shift it says "off until (time here")

Or you can type in "night" into the system-wide search and "night shift" pops up as an option?

Or you can google "night mode iphone"?

Your husband being completely helpless isn't the fault of iOS.

Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by KennyBlanken on Monday November 06, 2023 @03:30PM (#38168531)
You don't need to go to "nonsense." Night mode is built-in to iOS, no software required - and it's Android that is imitating iOS with the accessibility menu, not the other way around. iOS is famous for its accessibility features. Since the early days of MacOS, Apple has always included accessibility features in its software.

For years I've had "make the screen red" as a shortcut to three home button rapid presses.

> Apple products just make no sense to me.

I'm using an iPhone that cost me $300 used when I bought it several years ago, is now six years old, was until a month or so fully supported OS-wise and will continue to get security updates for another year or two, and is plenty fast enough for everything I do. Airdrop is incredibly handy, almost daily, and has no equivalent on the Android side. It backs up automatically to my mac any time it's on wifi and has power, also no equivalent on Android. I have a ton of the data collection turned off in the privacy tab. Half my apps don't know my real email address because I use Apple's email proxy service. iOS integrates nicely with my open-source self-hosted file sync and my open-source password database. The apps on my device collect a lot less data about me, and my device is not incessantly reporting everything it can to Google.

The battery is original and has 75% of its capacity, and battery life is generally excellent. Not a single component in the phone has needed replacement / worn out. The screen is great. The speakers are great. Reception is great. Facetime audio calls are really pleasant with a couple of friends compared to regular phone calls. It never crashes. The Lightning jack still works perfectly, for example - and I don't bother with wireless charging most of the time.

I get that it's nice to prop up one's ego thinking that you're *so much smarter than millions of people who are willing to pay a premium for something, or you can accept that there's a reason people make a choice other than what you do, that they might be different reasons, different priorities, etc.

Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by orloffm on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @09:24AM (#38177060)
I've been like you, but now I can't use the modern OLED iPhones because of the PWM flicker.
Re:Create a shortcut for even lower phone brightness by rimunroe on Monday November 06, 2023 @05:47PM (#38170238)
As someone else already pointed out, this is in addition to the normal brightness control. This is also notably the only settings hack I’ve ever needed since switching to iPhones from Androids about eight years ago, and in the course of replying to this thread I discovered that the hack isn’t even needed anymore since the reduce white point setting has a slider. I was shocked after the switch about how little tweaking I needed to do to have a device I actually enjoyed using.