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Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by CPLX on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:37PM (#38147128)
> I’m strongly anti-union. While they increase the average wage, they limit the top wages of those who are not average or below.

How would you rate the abilties and compensation of union members Lebron James and Keanu Reeves?

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by mensetmanusman on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:50PM (#38147212)
Lebron James would be an even larger billionaire. Also, he loves money so much he is afraid to speak out for the little guys being crushed in China lest he lose a few million.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by CPLX on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:53PM (#38147224)
Your theory is that unions are holding back wages of elite professional athletes and movie stars?
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by rrdharan on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:17PM (#38147396)
I don’t know why you’re expressing such incredulity at the idea:

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/even-though-lebron-james-make...

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by flappyeagle on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:52PM (#38147593)
Yes. The NBA collective bargaining agreement puts a max salary on players. In a free market LeBron would have made far more during his career, and the average player less.

This is exactly a case of increasing the median salary at the expense of top performers.

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by manuelmoreale on Sunday November 05, 2023 @02:11AM (#38149035)
And isn’t that a good thing overall? Like isn’t that an outcome we generally want as a society?
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by bigbillheck on Sunday November 05, 2023 @09:32AM (#38151449)
> The NBA collective bargaining agreement puts a max salary on players

If you check the recorded history you'll find that the NBA salary cap was there since the very first year of the league, and predates the union by several years: https://www.apbr.org/labor.html

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by flappyeagle on Monday November 06, 2023 @04:08PM (#38169038)
The team salary cap and the individual max salary are different things.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by HDThoreaun on Sunday November 05, 2023 @12:14PM (#38153130)
The nba players union is definitely holding back the salary of Lebron. He'd be making 70%+ of the salary cap without max contracts that the union forced.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by Lowell20 on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:14PM (#38147372)
I am stronly pro unions as in Sweden, and they are not like the US unions. Around 70% of people in Sweden are members of unions for $15/month.

Sweden Tesla worker salary is 4k/month, with full health insurance, free kindergarten, free school, free college. In case they get ill, workers get 2 years of 80% salary, and rehabilitation.

While you have at will contrracts in the US, unions in Sweden have ensured 3 months notice. Unions also negotiate minumum annual raise and gives you annual raise at least equal to inflation.

Unemployment insurance is handled by unions, you must be a member - 1 year of 80% salary and additional year. If needed, new training is obtained for free.

Without a union agreement, Musk workers are slaves.

No serious brand operates without unions.

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by simondotau on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:48PM (#38147569)
Is Keanu Reeves a member of his union entirely of his own volition, or because he was coerced to by other members of his industry?

I have no problem with unions so long as they are voluntary. Only if a union is voluntary can you make any fair comparisons to prove their value.

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by sangnoir on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:27PM (#38147786)
> Is Keanu Reeves a member of his union entirely of his own volition, or because he was coerced to by other members of his industry?

IIRC, you can't have more than a few lines in a movie without being union.

Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade by simondotau on Sunday November 05, 2023 @06:42AM (#38150274)
Sounds like a bunch of thugs. Gross.