Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by permo-w on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:17PM
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who runs the ports? labour
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Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by seanmcdirmid on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:42PM
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Longshoreman unions have an infamous history throughout the world. Even in the USA they have lots of leverage to dictate against things like too much automation.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by lotsofpulp on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:37PM
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There is no such thing as too much automation. Those dockworkers are just extracting an unfair tax, and inefficiently allocating the country’s labor.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by starbase on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:25PM
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AKA rent-seeking
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by permo-w on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:58PM
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the point I'm making is that the people on the ground making these places operate are the people that should have that power, and the idea that the government - supposedly the collective of all people in a country - would stand in the way of that for the sake of some capital holders is bizarre
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by seanmcdirmid on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:56PM
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People should have rights sure, but letting unions run ports to the contrary interests of everyone else is not that. I don’t want longshoremen unions telling me what I can buy and not buy.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by guerrilla on Sunday November 05, 2023 @02:26AM
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So you should force them to work for the interestbof everyone else. That's called slavery.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by seanmcdirmid on Sunday November 05, 2023 @11:20AM
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No. I would force competition though. Longshore men don’t want to unload a ship? Fine, they don’t have to work that day. Just hire people from the hall that will? No one wants to unload the ship? Ok, just let the robots do it.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by guerrilla on Sunday November 05, 2023 @11:57AM
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And when you get sympathy strikes? That's how it works in Sweden and what Tesla is facing. First the harbors, then electricians and it'll eventually be the entire country if the don't sign. That's how our system works: solidarity.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by seanmcdirmid on Sunday November 05, 2023 @02:33PM
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Everyone has the right to strike. They don’t have a right to a monopoly in labor however.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by guerrilla on Monday November 06, 2023 @07:57AM
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Sure, capitalists are welcome to work too ;)
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by ImPostingOnHN on Sunday November 05, 2023 @08:31AM
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You can buy whatever you want, nobody is stopping you. It would be you telling them what work they must and must not do.
Re:Tesla strike widens as Swedish union expands blockade
by mensetmanusman on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:00PM
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People (government folk) have the power to decide who gets to operate there. It’s a circle of trust called society.