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Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by z7 on Saturday November 04, 2023 @07:06AM (#38139915)
"A neuron just transmits signals. Any cognitive property arises as a consequence of the interplay of those electrical and chemical signals."

Do we now understand consciousness? The statement appears fundamentally limited in its implied insight.

Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by williamcotton on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:05AM (#38140269)
Just musing, so don’t take this as a direct response to your comments…

I agree with you but for rhetorical necessities it would be great if this argument could be made without the direct comparison with human cognition if only because there’s a popular grey-faith argument that will dismiss this offhand and for any number of deeply held philosophical beliefs.

The idea that emergent machine cognition mirrors emergent biological cognition is bordering on behavioralism but on the Wittgenstein side of things. The forest for the trees.

Perhaps it’s not as pithy as you’ve laid out, which is not an insult, just an observation that side-stepping anthropomorphism isn’t going to be as straightforward.

Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by JohnAaronNelson on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:12AM (#38140316)
What if consciousness is an emergent illusion? “You” are merely a passenger, observing your physical self’s actions and assuming ownership of them. What if consciousness is merely an effect, not a cause?
Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by idiotsecant on Saturday November 04, 2023 @08:54AM (#38140621)
I hope you haven't read the novel blindsight and I get to be the one to tell you about it. They might as well have given that book your post as a title.
Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by og_kalu on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:36AM (#38141377)
>“You” are merely a passenger, observing your physical self’s actions and assuming ownership of them

Oh boy. Now here's the rub. We know this is true at least sometimes. When you make a decision and explain it, it is often(always?) just a post-hoc rationalization. You don't actually know why you make a lot of the decision you do even if you dearly believe so.

Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by qingcharles on Saturday November 04, 2023 @04:43PM (#38144935)
This is very clear in split-brain patients where one side will make the decision and the other side will come up with an excellently reasoned explanation of the decision.
Re:Telling GPT-4 you're scared or under pressure improves pe... by RoyalHenOil on Saturday November 04, 2023 @05:29PM (#38145327)
What's even weirder is that when the hemispheres are split apart, the two sides seem to both be able to understand and carry out instructions (and can even compete with each other to do them, e.g., the left hand and right hand may try to push each other out of the way), which suggests that there may be two wholly separate consciousnesses in each half of the brain.