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Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by steve1977 on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:43AM (#38129559)
It’s also more expensive than a M2 Max or M1 Max if I’m not mistaken.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by stetrain on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:03AM (#38129873)
14" MBP with the highest M2 Max configuration, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD was $3899.

A new model with the same configuration is also $3899.

Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by steve1977 on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:29PM (#38131072)
Interesting, they seem to be bit more expensive where I live, although I cannot compare them 1:1 (spec'd one with M2 Max 30 Core GPU and 64 GB RAM some months ago, however for 64 GB RAM I would need to go with the M3 Max 40 Core GPU now, so not a fair comparison)

Edit: But in any case, the difference would not be huge from what I can see, so I guess my point is moot

Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by speedgoose on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:29PM (#38131074)
Wow, that’s overpriced for such low specs.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by grecy on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:39PM (#38131220)
Please show me a laptop from another manufacturer that has similar specs, similar screen, similar battery life that costs less.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by speedgoose on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:58PM (#38132490)
It’s more that those specs are not worth the price bump. I have a M1 that is slightly less capable but cost much much less. I use it to access machines that are faster than this M3 laptop when needed.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by stetrain on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:18PM (#38131866)
For 16 core CPU, a dedicated GPU equivalent, 400GB/s LPDDR5 memory, 3024x1964 Mini-LED, and 18 hours of battery?

The closest I can configure a Dell XPS 15 is $3099, and that's a 14 core CPU and likely lower memory bandwidth and lower performance SSD. They claim 18 hours of battery but only with the base screen, the upgraded screen is presumably less.

And from personal experience using an XPS 15 is a significantly worse experience in stability, heat, fan noise, and real-world battery life.

And here are benchmarks for the XPS vs the M3 Max:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3367184

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3372431

Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by speedgoose on Friday November 03, 2023 @02:07PM (#38132606)
Yes I guess if you absolutely need those specs in a small laptop and you don’t care about value it makes sense. I think it’s more that the laptop is not a good deal compared to other Apple laptops.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by stetrain on Friday November 03, 2023 @02:18PM (#38132751)
Oh for sure. The value return per dollar gets worse the higher you go up Apple's options list. Especially their RAM and SSD upgrade prices.
Re:M3 Macs: there's more to performance than counting cores by ttoinou on Friday November 03, 2023 @06:35PM (#38135962)
So, with inflation, the actual price got down