They went all in as an alternative to ICE. Their BEVs are very recent. They had people arguing for more than a decade “will it be batteries or hydrogen?” without any serious effort at all to make the Mirai more than a source of confusion and discouragement.

And how does your conspiracy theory explain the low volume production of the Mirai?

Things really are more simple: Toyota's going to build cars and try to sell them. They build multiple drive trains because they can. They will build more of the ones that sell.

It’s not necessarily a conspiracy they might have just been unserious or lazy in forcing the world to make a huge change. They sold very few of them because nobody wanted to buy them because there’s no fuel for them. If they wanted to sell them they needed to build a fuel network.

> they might have just been unserious or lazy in forcing the world to make a huge change

Eh, you want Toyota, a car company, to force you to do things? That's a strange perspective.

> They sold very few of them

Because they produced very few of them. They still don't make very many.

I think we've arrived back at the beginning. You're agreeing that Toyota didn't go "all in" on hydrogen.

Try to ask questions instead of applying your own meaning to my words. We might have had a good conversation that way. You’re right we’re back at the beginning. Have a good day.

There are no questions to ask. You're inventing a narrative that doesn't correspond to the practical reality.

>Because they produced very few of them. They still don't make very many.

Because they rely entirely on subsidies and there’s no good fuel distribution network. They were very serious about hydrogen, they just expected other companies (ICE age fuel distributors) to build that network.

What are you talking about? Toyota has been saying that Hydrogen is the real future of ICE replacement in their own words for years.

I'm talking about the practical reality of what Toyota actually does. I'm not talking about some half-baked conspiracy theory cobbled together from media soundbites.

People into EV dont read statistics. I their worldview everyone bought EVs. Everyone lives in Bay area and drives EVs without touching the steering wheel. Meanwhile thousands pay for 2nd or 3rd hand cheap ICE car. A lot of my friends were shock when they lookup how small EV sales is in the world market. Even in USA, EVs is around maybe at best 5%-10% sales. And that is NEW car sales (with government subsidies). You add in used market, that numbers drop less than 1%. Even even today, Tesla is not even world biggest EV makers.