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Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:36PM (#38120543)
> Does the US have outstanding claims against the current Cuban government that leaves the embargo in place?

The Gulf of Mexico is of enormous strategic importance to America. Control of Cuba could blockade New Orleans and thus the Mississippi. I think the embargo has far outlived its usefulness. But keeping the island out of foreign hands is a legitimate geopolitical priority for D.C.

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by threatofrain on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:55PM (#38120807)
Why would an embargo be in alignment with the goal of keeping foreign influences from controlling Cuba?
Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:14PM (#38121053)
> Why would an embargo be in alignment with the goal of keeping foreign influences from controlling Cuba?

When it was initiated, it was to kick the Soviets out. Presently, it signals how seriously D.C. takes the issue. (Cuba is presently allying with Beijing [1].)

I don't think we should embargo or even sanction non-violent actors. (Threatening to blockade the port of New Orleans would be tantamount to a violent threat.) But the history of Havana's actions explains the embargo's origin. Havana's mismanagement of the Cuban economy explains why there isn't a material incentive to prioritize reversal.

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/cuba-china-spying-fa...

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by rabf on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:22PM (#38121836)
This wikipedia enry gives a lot of detail which is missing from the comments in this thread:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_...

Like many actions taken by nation states it mostly resulted in the opposite of the intended effect. Cuba became closely aligned with the Soviet Union because of the sanctions which have been widely regarded as complete policy failure.

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by rightbyte on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:15PM (#38121066)
For real? Who cares about the hypothetical risk of a naval blockade of New Orleans.
Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:41PM (#38121396)
> Who cares about the hypothetical risk of a naval blockade of New Orleans

People who consider the future.

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by rightbyte on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:45PM (#38121442)
I don't see any scenario where the people of New Orleans are left to care and some country can put a naval blockade on the US.
Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by dragonwriter on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:20PM (#38121116)
> Control of Cuba could blockade New Orleans and thus the Mississippi.

For a few minutes, maybe, before whoever attempted to use control of Cuba for that purpose ceased to exist, along with all of the facilities they were using for that purpose.

The US military may fail at constructing stable democratic regimes on the far side of the globe, but obliterating someone doing that from Cuba wouldn't be a challenge.

> But keeping the island out of foreign hands is a legitimate geopolitical priority for D.C.

Its a foreign country. Unless the US invades and annexes it, whatever hands its in are going to continue to be foreign.

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by JumpCrisscross on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:40PM (#38121388)
> whatever hands its in are going to continue to be foreign

Fair enough. Out of an adversary's hands.

Re:U.N. votes to end US embargo on Cuba; US and Israel oppose by stop50 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:40PM (#38121384)
Sea trade aside. Missiles from Cuba can reach many important metropoles within minutes. Some would even hit before the gouvernment knows what was hit.